Sep 11, 2017 1:21:30 AM
- JoeRockhead
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Sep 11, 2017 1:21:30 AM
Jeannot:Whoopsy:Too bad it's a Peugeot. About the same excitement as a Kia.
Not quite the same Motorsport heritage...
did kia win WRC or 24h lemans?
Good question! I don't know. Did Peugeot win it before? Can't be bothered with checking on a French car maker.
It's just wrong to put Peugeot or any other French car maker in the same sentence as excitement.
Whoopsy:Cool, so French car makers was actually capable of making something good!
Bugatti?
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Sep 11, 2017 5:08:13 PM
Sep 11, 2017 5:12:29 PM
Whoopsy:Grant:Whoopsy:Cool, so French car makers was actually capable of making something good!
Bugatti?
German!
It's under VAG
Not this one
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Sep 11, 2017 5:57:18 PM
JoeRockhead:Been almost 20 years since Mitsu has won a WRC championship. You'd have to go back way further to find Audi.
That's something!
If one go ask a random people about rally cars, Audi Quattro would probably be named. Audi has been using the rally connection to advertise their Quattro system.
A second car and third car that can be named would be the Mitsu EVO and Subaru Impreza. Everyone knows they do rally racing.
The Lancia Delta would be a dark horse to be named as associated with rallying.
But would someone actually drop a name from Peugeot or Citroen?
Sep 11, 2017 6:36:17 PM
Whoopsy:That's something!
If one go ask a random people about rally cars, Audi Quattro would probably be named. Audi has been using the rally connection to advertise their Quattro system.
A second car and third car that can be named would be the Mitsu EVO and Subaru Impreza. Everyone knows they do rally racing.
The Lancia Delta would be a dark horse to be named as associated with rallying.
But would someone actually drop a name from Peugeot or Citroen?
Maybe we're just old.
Sep 11, 2017 6:57:37 PM
I understand that the street cars of the french brands does not attract much attention, but all 3 brands under the PSA umbrella have a very long history in European motorsports, not least Le Mans, Formula racing and Rally. If I remember right it was Peugeot who took the last 2 seasons of the Group B championship....from Audi back in the mid 80's (85/86 I believe).
In Le Mans Peugeot and now Porsche are the only ones who has been able to defeat Audi since 2000 (if we put a = between Audi and Bentley).
In European formula racing Renault is very big and have been a steady producer of cars from their 2.0 liter NA cars to the GP2 competitor called Formula 3.5 World Series, which until a few years back was the serie just below F1 in Europe. Since 2013 two champions ended in F1 (Carlos Sainz and Kevin Magnussen).
On a lover level they have been very active in numerous one mark series of circuit racing (Renault 5 cup to the current Clio Cup etc for the other brands), but until the Renault RS01 came a few years ago, they never entered the GT market as the simply do not have a car for this segment.
I am sure you can do some more good night reading, there is plenty of motorsport history from these guys in Europe
Whoopsy:964C2:Peugeot won Le Mans in 1992, 1993 and 2009. Renault-Alpine won in 1978 and Matra won in 1972, 1973 and 1974.
Cool, so French car makers was actually capable of making something good!
Talbot Lago T26 , 1-2 at Le Mans in 1950. Made also some other amazing cars.
Sep 14, 2017 10:34:01 AM
DaveGordon:Between them, Citroën and Peugeot won all the world rally championships from 2000 to 2012 minus 2 Ford years.
Yeah and those cars were as close to their series production cars as a 918 is to a Boxster.
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I've still never driven that road (and fewer excuses now that it's paved the whole way) - sounds like a great time!
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