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Oct 30, 2007 12:45:00 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: Adam2S

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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Adam2S said:
If its not a daft question why do people want a really fat steering wheel? It looks like something out of a 1980's Rover MG Maestro or something.

Do you have really HUGE hands?

You know what they say about people with big hands.... So is this just a ploy to dispel the common porsche myth too. "No, no, look its not true at all - I have enormous hands, so big I need a super fat steering wheel - so I cant possibly be small in the trouser dept!"

Give the guy a break. If he prefers a thick steering wheel, let him have it, no need to resort to insulting people based on some hairdresser salon superstition about human physiology. Rennteam is better than that. I know I'd look into the same option had I bought the car.

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Oct 30, 2007 1:12:40 PM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: Crash

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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no need to resort to insulting people based on some hairdresser salon superstition about human physiology.

You make sense, but you're insulting a whole profession!

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Oct 30, 2007 1:19:51 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: The Groom

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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Crash said:
no need to resort to insulting people based on some hairdresser salon superstition about human physiology.

You make sense, but you're insulting a whole profession!

Being a hairdresser is a profession?

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Oct 30, 2007 1:24:59 PM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: Crash

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

It didn't to me when I wrote this, but "profession" is an interesting word because of its different meanings (like "occur" in fact).

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Oct 30, 2007 1:38:35 PM

x838nwy: Junior; Loc: umm.....; Posts: 71, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 13, 2007; Reply to: Adam2S

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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Adam2S said:
If its not a daft question why do people want a really fat steering wheel? It looks like something out of a 1980's Rover MG Maestro or something.

Do you have really HUGE hands?

You know what they say about people with big hands.... So is this just a ploy to dispel the common porsche myth too. "No, no, look its not true at all - I have enormous hands, so big I need a super fat steering wheel - so I cant possibly be small in the trouser dept!"

Ha ha ha

man, that's one of the funniest by quite a bit

Speaking for myself, I don't have a fetish for crazy-thick wheels or anything. But I do find stock wheels a little too thin sometimes. I guess it's just the feel of the thing, really. A solid feeling car should have a solid feeling wheel imo. Plus, if you wear gloves (for whatever reason) then it's nice to have a thicker wheel...

I'm not quite sure how thick the Porsche wheel is, so I'm just keeping this one in mind...

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Oct 30, 2007 2:01:40 PM

easy_rider911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 22190, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 8, 2004; Reply to: x838nwy

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

I actually think people prefer a thinner or thicker wheel depending upon how they hold the wheel - i.e. perpendicular to the rim (and hence they need a thicker wheel) or at more of an oblique angle (and hence a thinner wheel is fine).

I do the latter and find that I can make more delicate steering inputs/adjustments as a result...

Just my 2 cents

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Oct 30, 2007 2:26:28 PM

atomic80: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Bellevue, WA USA , United States; Posts: 2596, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2006; Reply to: easy_rider911

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

Adam,

Don't knock it until you've tried it, buddy. Race cars have THICK steering wheel rims usually. That doesn't mean we're racer wannabes, it just means that it feels great.

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Oct 30, 2007 2:47:04 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: atomic80

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

I, OTOH, don't understand the thicker wheel. Seems that the "delicate," sophisticated (variable ratio), highly-responsive steering system would be better appreciated by a smaller diameter wheel.

You need a better, stronger grip on something if you have to muscle it around, right?

Also for arthritis..., might be nice.

Just wondering what the attraction is to thicker wheels?

No disrespect intended.

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Oct 30, 2007 3:05:47 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: MMD

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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MMD said:
I, OTOH, don't understand the thicker wheel. Seems that the "delicate," sophisticated (variable ratio), highly-responsive steering system would be better appreciated by a smaller diameter wheel.

You need a better, stronger grip on something if you have to muscle it around, right?

Also for arthritis..., might be nice.

Just wondering what the attraction is to thicker wheels?

No disrespect intended.

For me it's the feel. My hands just feel more comfortable with a thicker wheel.

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Oct 30, 2007 3:08:20 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: atomic80

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

We've come a long way.

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Oct 30, 2007 3:10:42 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

Geezz.

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Oct 30, 2007 3:22:35 PM

imcarnuts: Co-Pilot; Loc: Pennsylvania , United States; Posts: 229, Gallery; Registered on: May 14, 2007; Reply to: MMD

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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MMD said:
I, OTOH, don't understand the thicker wheel. Seems that the "delicate," sophisticated (variable ratio), highly-responsive steering system would be better appreciated by a smaller diameter wheel.

You need a better, stronger grip on something if you have to muscle it around, right?

Also for arthritis..., might be nice.

Just wondering what the attraction is to thicker wheels?

No disrespect intended.

The thickness of the wheel and the diameter are really two different issues. I wouldn't want a larger diameter wheel but I do want a thicker wheel.

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Oct 30, 2007 5:06:15 PM

Adam2S: Senior; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 745, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 19, 2007; Reply to: MMD

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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MMD said:
I, OTOH, don't understand the thicker wheel.

MMD : Seems its just the two of us that have small hands!!!!
But then, thats what the Porsche is there to make up for ofc..

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Oct 30, 2007 5:42:59 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Adam2S

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

Actually, I have really small hands too, but I find the large wheel is more comfortable to hold/drive with, my fingers are just that much more relaxed, I feel like my fingers are in their natural half open/half close position when I hold onto the wheel.

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Oct 31, 2007 1:30:45 AM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: Adam2S

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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Adam2S said:
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MMD said:
I, OTOH, don't understand the thicker wheel.

MMD : Seems its just the two of us that have small hands!!!!
But then, thats what the Porsche is there to make up for ofc..

Yeah, yeah...

. I HAD to buy a Turbo because I'm a wimpy, insufficient, overcompensator. HAHA.

My hand size is XL. Has more to do with the fact that old classic sports cars, with mechanisms even more primative than rack and pinion, all had thinner wheels (the part you grab onto). I guess THAT was enough for the "true sports car feel."

See photos above.

Seems to me the more rough-and-tumble the car is, the thicker and more padded the wheel should be.

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Oct 31, 2007 1:33:08 AM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: imcarnuts

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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imcarnuts said:
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MMD said:
I, OTOH, don't understand the thicker wheel. Seems that the "delicate," sophisticated (variable ratio), highly-responsive steering system would be better appreciated by a smaller diameter wheel.

You need a better, stronger grip on something if you have to muscle it around, right?

Also for arthritis..., might be nice.

Just wondering what the attraction is to thicker wheels?

No disrespect intended.

The thickness of the wheel and the diameter are really two different issues. I wouldn't want a larger diameter wheel but I do want a thicker wheel.

My mistake..., sorry..., I was talking about the diameter of the part you grip onto.

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Nov 2, 2007 5:08:16 PM

Arshad: Pilot; Loc: Dubai, UAE , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 315, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 1, 2007; Reply to: MMD

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

Any of you guys who have changed to the Techart Wheel find a difference in the feel (communication) of the steering? Do you now feel more separated from what's happening on the tarmac, especially at the limit? Just that I've heard that this is the reason that Porsche haven't gone for a thicker steering wheel as standard.

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Nov 3, 2007 8:22:10 AM

gradyex: Pilot; Loc: S.F. Bay Area, CA.; Posts: 334, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 21, 2004; Reply to: Arshad

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

I have Porsches thicker sport wheel and after seeing Jasons and Larrys I was pumped to go for the Techart in leather until I inquired about the price (about $600.00 price increase in the past few months). I can't get myself to shell out $2200 plus my stock core wheel for the Techart. it was $1400 + core last year? Come on thats a bit of a price hike? The dollar didn't tank that much did it? Now my stock wheel feels thick enough!

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Nov 4, 2007 7:26:56 PM

Over the Hill: Pilot; Loc: Bellevue, Washington, USA; Posts: 386, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 16, 2006; Reply to: gradyex

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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I have Porsches thicker sport wheel and after seeing Jasons and Larrys I was pumped to go for the Techart in leather until I inquired about the price (about $600.00 price increase in the past few months). I can't get myself to shell out $2200 plus my stock core wheel for the Techart. it was $1400 + core last year? Come on thats a bit of a price hike? The dollar didn't tank that much did it? Now my stock wheel feels thick enough!

There may be some confusion here on the pricing. I don't know what the current price is for a Techart type 2 wheel with leather and no logo, but mine was $1659 + $30 shipping + $75 installation labor and a refundable core charge of $600. I believe Atomic80's wheel, which has CF accents was about $300 more. The price of the wheel has gone up due to the devaluation of the dollar, and core charge may have gone up some as well, but that amount is refundable. In my case I paid the core charge up front. When the new wheel was installed the core charge was deducted from the price of the wheel, so it was kinda like paying on an installment plan. Bottom line I like the feel of the wheel, and I get plenty of feed back through it.

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Nov 5, 2007 10:53:03 AM

gradyex: Pilot; Loc: S.F. Bay Area, CA.; Posts: 334, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 21, 2004; Reply to: Over the Hill

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

I thought I uploaded this photo on my last post but I don't see it. One more try....this is a photo of XPA (thicker sport steering wheel). For some reason (wide angle lens?) this shot of my steering wheel looks thicker than it actually is. At least its thicker than the stock wheel on my 997S. That was pencil thin compared to this one! If I didn't get option XPA I would definitely go for the techart. This wheel feels pretty good actually and I like the fact that its got the thumb sections in the right places. Sorry but I don't know what to call it?

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Nov 5, 2007 5:15:09 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: gradyex

Re: The option that should have come from Porsche

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gradyex said:
I thought I uploaded this photo on my last post but I don't see it. One more try....this is a photo of XPA (thicker sport steering wheel). For some reason (wide angle lens?) this shot of my steering wheel looks thicker than it actually is. At least its thicker than the stock wheel on my 997S. That was pencil thin compared to this one! If I didn't get option XPA I would definitely go for the techart. This wheel feels pretty good actually and I like the fact that its got the thumb sections in the right places. Sorry but I don't know what to call it?

Had the same wheel on my 997 S Cab. & ordered it on my Turbo Cab. Feels really great. IMO the XPA is the nicest Porsche wheel.

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