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Oct 24, 2007 7:33:05 AM

temm: Rennteam Master; Loc: Oslo , Norway; Posts: 4122, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 24, 2003

Nissan GT-R officially revealed

Presskit:
http://press.nissan-global.com/PRESSKIT/NISSANGTR/0710/ENGLISH/index.html

More pics:
http://press.nissan-global.com/NISSANGTR/EN/photographs.html

A video of the 7:38 lap of the Nurburgring can be found here:
http://www.nissan.co.jp/MS/TOKYO2007/E/index.html

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Oct 24, 2007 7:37:15 AM

temm: Rennteam Master; Loc: Oslo , Norway; Posts: 4122, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 24, 2003; Reply to: temm

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

Cool pics.

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Oct 24, 2007 7:37:38 AM

temm: Rennteam Master; Loc: Oslo , Norway; Posts: 4122, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 24, 2003; Reply to: temm

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

Rear

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Oct 24, 2007 8:18:02 AM

Pentium: Rennteam Master; Loc: Earth , Romania; Posts: 3055, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 27, 2003; Reply to: temm

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

Nice.

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Oct 24, 2007 9:20:46 AM

turbolite: Veteran; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 1012, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 26, 2004; Reply to: temm

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

thanks !

I like that car; if the price is on par or just slightly above a similar equipped M3, I'd go for this one anytime...

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Oct 24, 2007 9:35:02 AM

AUM: Veteran; Loc: Germany; Posts: 1203, Gallery; Registered on: May 2, 2006; Reply to: turbolite

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

Fast, fat and unappealing.

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Oct 24, 2007 9:39:42 AM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: Pentium

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

Thanks Temm. I wasn't able to find the 7:38 lap. Guess it is true then? It is faster than a 997TT? But this is a comment I found on their site. "The Nissan GT-R undertook about 5000 km (3107 miles)of high-speed testing at the Nürburgring, and was consistently achieving lap times of just under 8 minutes."

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Oct 24, 2007 9:41:01 AM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: WAY

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

Hang on, this from the site also.
"The new Nissan GT-R may well be the most accomplished and technologically advanced high performance car ever made. One of the world's fastest vehicles (including a production car lap record at the famous Nürburgring in Germany), it is also probably the world's easiest and most secure high-speed car to drive fast. The multi-performance supercar Nissan GT-R raced through the Nürburgring circuit - where the condition of the most feared high-speed corner, "Kesselchen" was wet - with a record time of 7m38s. It can accelerate from 0-100km/h in 3.6 seconds. The new Nissan GT-R is also striking value, offering much better performance - in acceleration, cornering power and braking - than all equivalently priced sports coupes.

Like previous versions of the legendary race-winning GT-R, the latest model is a showcase for Nissan's engineering talents. Features include an advanced full-time four-wheel drive system that improves traction and cornering power. This four-wheel drive system uses an independent transaxle 4WD (a world first) for greater agility. There is a brand new 480 PS (353 kW) V6 twin-turbo engine that combines exhilarating power with an ultra-low emission exhaust (Japanese regulation) and the best fuel economy in its sector. The lightweight body, which uses a new package (Nissan's 'Premium Midship'), features diecast aluminum, carbon fiber and advanced steel and has a class-leading aerodynamic Cd of just 0.27. There's a new dual- clutch paddle shift transmission that offers exceptionally fastthe gear shifts and the facility to drive in full automatic mode, improving ease of driving. The big ventilated Brembo disc brakes offer immense stopping performance."

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Oct 24, 2007 10:02:58 AM

temm: Rennteam Master; Loc: Oslo , Norway; Posts: 4122, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 24, 2003; Reply to: WAY

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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Thanks Temm. I wasn't able to find the 7:38 lap.

Click on "Nissan GT-R details" on the frontpage (the GT-R is the first slide, you can find the buttons for navigating btw the slides in the bottom right corner"

When you get to the GT-R details page click on "MOVIE" in the top menu and voila...

It's a pretty cool movie from on board the GT-R with the timing displayed.

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Oct 24, 2007 10:09:31 AM

BiTurbo: Rennteam Master; Loc: X , United States; Posts: 3252, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2006; Reply to: temm

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

7:38 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg

Why do they time the car while it's moving and pause at the end ? is this how it's done ?

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Oct 24, 2007 1:08:43 PM

Modrocket_stereo: Veteran; Loc: Chicago; Posts: 1178, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 8, 2003; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

It's the same video that was played to the audience as the TAS.

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Oct 24, 2007 1:23:41 PM

Modrocket_stereo: Veteran; Loc: Chicago; Posts: 1178, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 8, 2003; Reply to: Modrocket_stereo

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

I think the lap time is slightly skewed. The lap time starts slightly before turn one and ends just at the last corner. There is a good couple hundred feet to finish.

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Oct 24, 2007 1:31:30 PM

01Box06Z06: Pilot; Loc: Pennsylvania, USA; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2006; Reply to: Modrocket_stereo

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

3,836lbs and 480 hp just don't add up to a 7:38. Am I missing something? That car has a power to weight ratio worse than the GT3RS, but it's 10 seconds faster around the 'ring? Something's wrong there for sure.
I can't wait to see some "official" tests from the German magazines to see where they come in. I'm betting it won't be close.

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Oct 24, 2007 1:49:53 PM

01Box06Z06: Pilot; Loc: Pennsylvania, USA; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2006; Reply to: Modrocket_stereo

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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Modrocket_stereo said:
I think the lap time is slightly skewed. The lap time starts slightly before turn one and ends just at the last corner. There is a good couple hundred feet to finish.

I just watched the video. There's still quite a bit of track left after that last turn to where they had the timing gear set-up. Not sure if that's how all the laps are timed, but I don't think it's a complete lap either.

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Oct 24, 2007 1:52:20 PM

Modrocket_stereo: Veteran; Loc: Chicago; Posts: 1178, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 8, 2003; Reply to: 01Box06Z06

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

I had realized that Sport Auto magazine has the same lapping procedure. In essense, it is very comparible to most laps that are on the 'Ring. I'd still like to see how it does at more tighter circuits where its weight will be better tested.

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Oct 24, 2007 2:08:20 PM

AUM: Veteran; Loc: Germany; Posts: 1203, Gallery; Registered on: May 2, 2006; Reply to: BiTurbo

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BiTurbo said:
7:38 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg

Why do they time the car while it's moving and pause at the end ? is this how it's done ?

Yes that is how it is done with a flying start.

If the 7.38 time is for the standard production car, it is very impressive for such a heavyweight. But does that make it less ugly?

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Oct 24, 2007 2:19:51 PM

AUM: Veteran; Loc: Germany; Posts: 1203, Gallery; Registered on: May 2, 2006; Reply to: 01Box06Z06

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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01Box06Z06 said:
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Modrocket_stereo said:
I think the lap time is slightly skewed. The lap time starts slightly before turn one and ends just at the last corner. There is a good couple hundred feet to finish.

I just watched the video. There's still quite a bit of track left after that last turn to where they had the timing gear set-up. Not sure if that's how all the laps are timed, but I don't think it's a complete lap either.

This is the same 20.6 km track used by Sport Auto.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times

Not all of the following laptimes are comparable. A full lap of the de:Nordschleife, bypassing the modern GP track, is 20.832 km long. Full uninterrupted flying laps can only be done in closed sessions and race events like Castrol-Haugg-Cup.

During the industry testing sessions in which de:Sport auto records its "Supertest", the track can not be traveled at full speed past "Tribüne 13" (T13, grandstand 13) in order to allow safe access from the old exit/entrance there. Thus, Sportauto Supertests cover only about 20.6 km, which in average yields a 7 s shorter lap time compared to a full lap.

There are 5 sections on the 20,600 meters long Supertest-Nordschleife:

1st=3850 m
2nd=4235 m
3rd=4825 m
4th=4846 m
5th=2844 m
=20600 m

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Oct 24, 2007 2:26:22 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: 01Box06Z06

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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3,836lbs and 480 hp just don't add up to a 7:38. Am I missing something? That car has a power to weight ratio worse than the GT3RS, but it's 10 seconds faster around the 'ring? Something's wrong there for sure.
I can't wait to see some "official" tests from the German magazines to see where they come in. I'm betting it won't be close.

I agree the car seems way too fast for its specs. Btw, happy birthday!

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Oct 24, 2007 2:29:15 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: Crash

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

Chill out people.

This is the standard timing procedure.

All sport auto times are timed EXACTLY like this lap, therefore Nissan's lap is perfectly comparable.

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Oct 24, 2007 2:30:42 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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Turbo4ever said:
Chill out people.

This is the standard timing procedure.

All sport auto times are timed EXACTLY like this lap, therefore Nissan's lap is perfectly comparable.

Nobody is talking about the procedure, but about the time itself. 7:38 for a car that weighs as much as a large sedan with only 480 bhp just seems too fast and that goes for any marque.

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Oct 24, 2007 2:31:36 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

You just forgot few things:

-GTR 473hp/590Nm
-GTR 1740kg

Nissan claims 7.38min...

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Oct 24, 2007 2:42:40 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: Crash

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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Crash said:
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Turbo4ever said:
Chill out people.

This is the standard timing procedure.

All sport auto times are timed EXACTLY like this lap, therefore Nissan's lap is perfectly comparable.

Nobody is talking about the procedure, but about the time itself. 7:38 for a car that weighs as much as a large sedan with only 480 bhp just seems too fast and that goes for any marque.

Okey, now about the hp.

Let's say the past GT-R34, factory stated 280hp, but the real figure is around 3XXhp. Just like the GT3, that isn't just 415hp either.

I hope you know what I mean.

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Oct 24, 2007 2:48:28 PM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

I am not doubting the time guys. I have seen how fast my friend's (albeit modded) R34 GTR is, faster than F430's on our local track. It's definitely not inconceivable.

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Oct 24, 2007 4:54:11 PM

The Groom: Expert; Loc: EU; Posts: 1779, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: WAY

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The car was probably tuned just for the Ring, maybe with aggressive suspension setup, stripped equipement, gnomish pilot...

IIRC the R34 that did its record lap was not standard spec either.

Still an amazing feat.

I just wish they had stuck to the original Concept design.

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Oct 24, 2007 5:56:02 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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Turbo4ever said:
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Crash said:
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Turbo4ever said:
Chill out people.

This is the standard timing procedure.

All sport auto times are timed EXACTLY like this lap, therefore Nissan's lap is perfectly comparable.

Nobody is talking about the procedure, but about the time itself. 7:38 for a car that weighs as much as a large sedan with only 480 bhp just seems too fast and that goes for any marque.

Okey, now about the hp.

Let's say the past GT-R34, factory stated 280hp, but the real figure is around 3XXhp. Just like the GT3, that isn't just 415hp either.

I hope you know what I mean.

I know what you mean and it is plausible, but it would need 100 more bhp to match that time with its weight. In any case, let's just wait until Sport Auto tests it and save our speculations until then.

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Oct 25, 2007 11:36:30 AM

deathnell: Junior; Loc: GD.CHN; Posts: 74, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 4, 2007; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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Turbo4ever said:
Quote:
Crash said:
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Turbo4ever said:
Chill out people.

This is the standard timing procedure.

All sport auto times are timed EXACTLY like this lap, therefore Nissan's lap is perfectly comparable.

Nobody is talking about the procedure, but about the time itself. 7:38 for a car that weighs as much as a large sedan with only 480 bhp just seems too fast and that goes for any marque.

Okey, now about the hp.

Let's say the past GT-R34, factory stated 280hp, but the real figure is around 3XXhp. Just like the GT3, that isn't just 415hp either.

I hope you know what I mean.

I know what you mean.But is it true?
From where do you know that the Gt3 is more than 415hp?

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Oct 25, 2007 12:38:04 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: deathnell

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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deathnell said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
Quote:
Crash said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
Chill out people.

This is the standard timing procedure.

All sport auto times are timed EXACTLY like this lap, therefore Nissan's lap is perfectly comparable.

Nobody is talking about the procedure, but about the time itself. 7:38 for a car that weighs as much as a large sedan with only 480 bhp just seems too fast and that goes for any marque.

Okey, now about the hp.

Let's say the past GT-R34, factory stated 280hp, but the real figure is around 3XXhp. Just like the GT3, that isn't just 415hp either.

I hope you know what I mean.

I know what you mean.But is it true?
From where do you know that the Gt3 is more than 415hp?

Just do some research and you will know that.

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Oct 25, 2007 12:58:16 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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Turbo4ever said:
Quote:
deathnell said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
Quote:
Crash said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
Chill out people.

This is the standard timing procedure.

All sport auto times are timed EXACTLY like this lap, therefore Nissan's lap is perfectly comparable.

Nobody is talking about the procedure, but about the time itself. 7:38 for a car that weighs as much as a large sedan with only 480 bhp just seems too fast and that goes for any marque.

Okey, now about the hp.

Let's say the past GT-R34, factory stated 280hp, but the real figure is around 3XXhp. Just like the GT3, that isn't just 415hp either.

I hope you know what I mean.

I know what you mean.But is it true?
From where do you know that the Gt3 is more than 415hp?

Just do some research and you will know that.

Don't read american forums too much. Their dynos almost always over-read. Porsche engines are bound by LAW to be within certain performance specs, otherwise the manufacturer faces a huge fine.

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Oct 25, 2007 1:33:26 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: Crash

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Crash said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
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deathnell said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
Quote:
Crash said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
Chill out people.

This is the standard timing procedure.

All sport auto times are timed EXACTLY like this lap, therefore Nissan's lap is perfectly comparable.

Nobody is talking about the procedure, but about the time itself. 7:38 for a car that weighs as much as a large sedan with only 480 bhp just seems too fast and that goes for any marque.

Okey, now about the hp.

Let's say the past GT-R34, factory stated 280hp, but the real figure is around 3XXhp. Just like the GT3, that isn't just 415hp either.

I hope you know what I mean.

I know what you mean.But is it true?
From where do you know that the Gt3 is more than 415hp?

Just do some research and you will know that.

Don't read american forums too much. Their dynos almost always over-read. Porsche engines are bound by LAW to be within certain performance specs, otherwise the manufacturer faces a huge fine.

So do you mean the GT3 only have 415hp?

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Oct 25, 2007 2:01:54 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: Nissan GT-R officially revealed

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Turbo4ever said:
Quote:
Crash said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
Quote:
deathnell said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
Quote:
Crash said:
Quote:
Turbo4ever said:
Chill out people.

This is the standard timing procedure.

All sport auto times are timed EXACTLY like this lap, therefore Nissan's lap is perfectly comparable.

Nobody is talking about the procedure, but about the time itself. 7:38 for a car that weighs as much as a large sedan with only 480 bhp just seems too fast and that goes for any marque.

Okey, now about the hp.

Let's say the past GT-R34, factory stated 280hp, but the real figure is around 3XXhp. Just like the GT3, that isn't just 415hp either.

I hope you know what I mean.

I know what you mean.But is it true?
From where do you know that the Gt3 is more than 415hp?

Just do some research and you will know that.

Don't read american forums too much. Their dynos almost always over-read. Porsche engines are bound by LAW to be within certain performance specs, otherwise the manufacturer faces a huge fine.

So do you mean the GT3 only have 415hp?

415 REAL bhp, yes.

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