993, 996 and 997 women opinion
As to the guys, they liked the 997 very much, and didn't made any comment 997 vs 996.
Women, can't live with them, can't live without them
J.Seven
Jun 3, 2004 7:14:55 PM
Jun 3, 2004 7:47:47 PM
Jun 3, 2004 10:54:40 PM
Jun 3, 2004 10:58:52 PM
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J.Seven said:
Yesterday I had a dinner at my house with a bunch of friends. I show them the new 997. Can you belive that every woman there, and they were five, told me that the 996 looked much better from the front. All of them never liked the 993, they said it was kind of "pimp car" due to the big rear wing and large wheel arches on the 993Turbo go figure and said the new lights on the 997 were poor. When I show them pictures where we could see the back of the 997, they liked it very very much.
As to the guys, they liked the 997 very much, and didn't made any comment 997 vs 996.
Women, can't live with them, can't live without them
J.Seven
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RC said:
Nick, you're a hopeless case as we say in medicine.
I wonder what would happen if I go to a Ferrari forum somewhere on the internet and tell the owners that actually only pimps drive Ferraris, that Ferraris actually are a sort of substitute for the owner's inferior developped private parts or that a Ferrari actually is some kind of Viagra for people who wouldn't be able to get sex otherwise.
Honestly, Nick: your Porsche criticism starts to go below the belt, especially since you don't seem to find real arguments anymore.
I didn't want to say it but I have to: I'm a little bit disappointed.
Maybe I should put it this way:
1. the 997 S outruns your great Ferrari 360 Modena ANYTIME, ANYWHERE.
How much does the 997 S cost and how much did you pay for your 360?
2. looks lie in the eye of the beholder. The fact that you can see a car more seldom on the street doesn't mean it is looking better. Ferrari builds nice cars but I'm afraid I care more about performance and not looks
3. why did you buy a Cayenne and not something else?
4. I hope the Mini is your wife's car
5. I don't like the new BMW 6 series and I even hate the Smart or the VW Beetle. Do I go to a BMW, Smart or VW forum and start to argue about looks, performance, etc.?
You know what I really think? You're actually regretting having bought a Ferrari but you don't want to admit it.
You like the looks (or better said: the attraction "factor" towards other people) but you secretly wish to own a Porsche because you know that performance sucks on your 360.
We can help you, Nick: just sell your 360 and we'll find a nice 997 GT3 for you.
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RC said:
Nick, you're a hopeless case as we say in medicine.
I wonder what would happen if I go to a Ferrari forum somewhere on the internet and tell the owners that actually only pimps drive Ferraris, that Ferraris actually are a sort of substitute for the owner's inferior developped private parts or that a Ferrari actually is some kind of Viagra for people who wouldn't be able to get sex otherwise.
Honestly, Nick: your Porsche criticism starts to go below the belt, especially since you don't seem to find real arguments anymore.
I didn't want to say it but I have to: I'm a little bit disappointed.
Maybe I should put it this way:
1. the 997 S outruns your great Ferrari 360 Modena ANYTIME, ANYWHERE.
How much does the 997 S cost and how much did you pay for your 360?
2. looks lie in the eye of the beholder. The fact that you can see a car more seldom on the street doesn't mean it is looking better. Ferrari builds nice cars but I'm afraid I care more about performance and not looks
3. why did you buy a Cayenne and not something else?
4. I hope the Mini is your wife's car
5. I don't like the new BMW 6 series and I even hate the Smart or the VW Beetle. Do I go to a BMW, Smart or VW forum and start to argue about looks, performance, etc.?
You know what I really think? You're actually regretting having bought a Ferrari but you don't want to admit it.
You like the looks (or better said: the attraction "factor" towards other people) but you secretly wish to own a Porsche because you know that performance sucks on your 360.
We can help you, Nick: just sell your 360 and we'll find a nice 997 GT3 for you.
Oh my, you brought out all the old bromides regarding Ferrari ownership. Look I realize that taste is subjective but one thing you can not deny. All agree that the 997 is retro, has a VW front end appearance and the back end a rip off from the old wide bodies. As for performance, I have never commented whether it is better than Ferrari or anything else for that matter.
I know you have a relationship with Porsche you do not wish to disrupt. Negative comments on this board can possible prevent good information be given to you and thus prevent its distribution.
Fair enough. I will not post negative comments regarding Porsche automobiles.
I leave you with this thought; "One defends when his strength is inadequate; he attacks when it is abundant."
Sun Tzu "The Art Of War"
Jun 4, 2004 4:21:00 AM
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911s look the way they do because they have to... they are 911s... they aren't Astins... they arent Lambo's... they aren't Lotus's... and they shouldn't ever change so much so they wouldn't be 911s... the lights have to be a certain way... the rear has to have a raising engine lid spoiler, they should always have the key on the left side... they are Porsche 911s... nothing more, nothing less...
Porsche, there is no substitue.
AMEN!
Nu, 15 days till I get my new toy.
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nberry said:
Fair enough. I will not post negative comments regarding Porsche automobiles
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nberry said:
Fair enough. I will not post negative comments regarding Porsche automobiles
Nick, you don't understand. You can post ANY negative comment about Porsche cars as long as you explain at the same time your opinion with ARGUMENTS.
I didn't want to be rude and I didn't want to make you feel not welcome on this forum, don't get me wrong.
I just wanted to let you "feel" the same way some people might feel due to your provocative posts.
I understand your criticism regarding the 997 and you might have some points in your opinion which have some truth in them. But some posts are ONLY provocative without really getting to the point of your criticism.
BTW: war is no art, it is hell. And to escape hell, everything is allowed as long as it keeps you alive. I don't believe in rules or even "the art of war". At the end, the winner takes it all.
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Everyone post their opinions but the difference is mine are negative.
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mmm208 said:
Womens opinions are not welcome in here.
Men only apply.
Sissies cannot understand a porsche.
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Scree said:
I've always enjoyed Nick's opinions, and there's always a thread of truth to all highly opinionated arguments.
However, Ron's picture shows Porsche's 911 best (terrific photo, btw). The 997 will fit perfectly in the shot (and arguably more so than the 996), and I can't really find any fault in that.
After all, there's some tradition in everything. Nick, why is your Ferrari red? And why do red Ferraris sell the most? If Ferrari's style is so dramatically new and unique for each model, why do people get the same color Red or Yellow, when they can get any color they want from Ferrari for free?
Think about it.
-=Scree=-
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mmm208 said:women belong in the Kitchen, not on the track. Why do brides wear white? Because the dish washer should match the fridge and the washing machine.
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Your right about the color. I disagree about styling. Show me a 10-15 year old Ferrari and see if it has a remblance to the 360. Now look at Ron's picture of three generations of Porsche's. The 30 year model looks like the 997!!!
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Your right about the color. I disagree about styling. Show me a 10-15 year old Ferrari and see if it has a remblance to the 360. Now look at Ron's picture of three generations of Porsche's. The 30 year model looks like the 997!!!
Nick, my point was that for most 911 owners/admirers, the tradition and heritage is in the styling, the way the color red is the tradition for Ferrari.
It's (partly) why the 928 didn't succeed as the 911 successor, and how the 911 will always remain the symbol for Porsche's vitality, as long as it remains relatively consistent in design.
However, I do think it'd be worth it for Porsche to build a mid-engined mini-Carrera GT that's pricier than the 911, but lighter and more agile. (The Boxster doesn't count because it's positioned as an entry-level roadster)
-=Scree=-
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mmm208 said:
Womens opinions are not welcome in here.
Men only apply.
Sissies cannot understand a porsche.
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Now look at Ron's picture of three generations of Porsche's. The 30 year model looks like the 997!!!