Leftlane News - Z06 beats 911 Turbo on road course
The course was somewhere in Sweden. The Z06 finished 2.6 seconds ahead of the 911 TT. There is a PDS in Swedish, maybe someone could help translate
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Turbo:
The 4wd and the heavy rear makes the 997tt hard to drift, and the car undsteers easily. But it is better suited for normal track driving.
It feels feminin compared to the Corvette, something I have never said about a Porsche before.
The Turbo turns in very nicely under braking, the balance is neutral with a slight tendency to oversteer. When I get back on the throttle there is a bit too much movement in the chassis and it wants to sit on its ass and understeer.
If you deliberately give it more throttle you can keep it in oversteer and get a better line, but then you have to shift and it understeers again.
In 4th the Z06 needs 4,1 sec from 80-120 kph, the Turbo only 2,9. In sixth the Turbo crushes the Z06, 5,5 sec vs 11,1.
The Turbo engine does not feel like turbocharged engine, it likes to rev and pushes hard all the way to the redline.
The Turbo brakes doesn't fade and the feedback is perfect. These brakes could handle slicks.
The fastest lap so far is 1.30,4, quite impressive as I qualify the STCC Audi in 1.21,4.
- They then fill up the Turbo, all 67 litres, and it is 0.3 sec faster.
The car turns in better now, with a full tank you get the nose down a little and can keep the throttle on longer when exiting a corner.
- Then it's the Z06:
The gearbox is difficult, but even if I couldn't find third gear on the pitstraight, it still did 1.29,3, another lap and I think I can get down to 1.28
The interior sucks, when I brake my face almost hits the windscreen, the seats are loose and don't have enough sidebolstering for a car of this caliber.
The engine has a nice and even powercurve, but not a lot happens after 6500 rpm. Going all the way to the redline is pointless.
The gearbox needs a firm hand and the space between 3rd and 5th is very close.
The brakes are holding up very nicely, but I have been talking it rather easy.
You probably should put this in the magazine, but the Z06 walks all over (to use his correct term - pisses all over) the Porsche. The Z06 is a surprisingly good trackcar and it can take a lot of punishment. You only need a rollcage, slicks and a slight update of the brakes to go racing.
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Grant S. said:
I don't get why people keep comparing the Turbo to the Z06. The Z06 is chevy's track car, so compare it to the GT3 or GT2. And if people complain about the price difference, then they shouldn't be comparing a chevy to a Porsche, just my 2 cents.
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Grant S. said:
I don't get why people keep comparing the Turbo to the Z06. The Z06 is chevy's track car, so compare it to the GT3 or GT2. And if people complain about the price difference, then they shouldn't be comparing a chevy to a Porsche, just my 2 cents.
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355Spider said:
Here let me get them all out of the way. It's still a Chevy, Sh!tty seats, cheap leather, plastic interior, rattles all the time, only good for drag rcacing, it's still a Chevy, flying roof, unrefined, rednecks, mullets, trailer park trash, women without all thier teeth, kids on the slow bus, knocked my my daughter up at 14 and it's still just a chevy. Ahhhhh now don't we all feel better.
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355Spider said:
Here let me get them all out of the way. It's still a Chevy, Sh!tty seats, cheap leather, plastic interior, rattles all the time, only good for drag rcacing, it's still a Chevy, flying roof, unrefined, rednecks, mullets, trailer park trash, women without all thier teeth, kids on the slow bus, knocked my my daughter up at 14 and it's still just a chevy. Ahhhhh now don't we all feel better.
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355Spider said:
Here let me get them all out of the way. It's still a Chevy, Sh!tty seats, cheap leather, plastic interior, rattles all the time, only good for drag rcacing, it's still a Chevy, flying roof, unrefined, rednecks, mullets, trailer park trash, women without all thier teeth, kids on the slow bus, knocked my my daughter up at 14 and it's still just a chevy. Ahhhhh now don't we all feel better.
Oct 12, 2006 8:22:01 PM
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stubenhocker said:
I love it...competition will make everyone better...I love 355 spiders satirical comment...
yes compared to Porsche it's like a chain saw vs a surgeons scalpel...but very impressive indeed
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stubenhocker said:
I love it...competition will make everyone better...I love 355 spiders satirical comment...
yes compared to Porsche it's like a chain saw vs a surgeons scalpel...but very impressive indeed
Another comparison is the the Corvette is the big strong guy who always sat in the back of the classroom, while the Porsche is the the guy with glaces and a sweater his mom made and who sat in the front row. We all now who got his butt kicked during the brakes.....Who would you rather be?
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stubenhocker said:
I love it...competition will make everyone better...I love 355 spiders satirical comment...
yes compared to Porsche it's like a chain saw vs a surgeons scalpel...but very impressive indeed
Another comparison is the the Corvette is the big strong guy who always sat in the back of the classroom, while the Porsche is the the guy with glaces and a sweater his mom made and who sat in the front row. We all now who got his butt kicked during the brakes.....Who would you rather be?
I'd rather be the nerd because the jock's going to be bagging my groceries, but I don't think this is a very cogent allegory...
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stubenhocker said:
I love it...competition will make everyone better...I love 355 spiders satirical comment...
yes compared to Porsche it's like a chain saw vs a surgeons scalpel...but very impressive indeed
Another comparison is the the Corvette is the big strong guy who always sat in the back of the classroom, while the Porsche is the the guy with glaces and a sweater his mom made and who sat in the front row. We all now who got his butt kicked during the brakes.....Who would you rather be?
I'd rather be the nerd because the jock's going to be bagging my groceries, but I don't think this is a very cogent allegory...
But the chainsaw and surgeon is a fair allegory? Well, some of the Porsche owners are very quick to throw snoby judgements around but are very, very sensitive when they are met with the same rethoric....
Why are auto magazines comparing the Z06 with 997tt, Ferrari 430 and Gallardo even though the price of a Z06 is half or less compared to the other cars? Could it be because the Z06 is a trashy plastic car as some of the Porsche owners claim? If so they could just as well compare with a KIA or DAEWO....or could it be that the Z06 is considered to be a worthy rival to the Porsche and Ferrari? If so; why do the Porsche owner fell so intimidated by the Z06....could it be because they feel bad from the knowledge that they were overcharged?
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355Spider said:
Here let me get them all out of the way. It's still a Chevy, Sh!tty seats, cheap leather, plastic interior, rattles all the time, only good for drag rcacing, it's still a Chevy, flying roof, unrefined, rednecks, mullets, trailer park trash, women without all thier teeth, kids on the slow bus, knocked my my daughter up at 14 and it's still just a chevy. Ahhhhh now don't we all feel better.
I don't think you can compare a $15k Chevy to a Corvette. Does one make fun of VW V12 Phaeton becuase they make a $14k Rabbit? So let me get this right, if I pulled up in a $15k VW, that is probably OK, but if I pull up in a $70 Corvette, I am trash? Very strange if you think about it, that thinking is very superficial, stereotypical.
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355Spider said:
Here let me get them all out of the way. It's still a Chevy, Sh!tty seats, cheap leather, plastic interior, rattles all the time, only good for drag rcacing, it's still a Chevy, flying roof, unrefined, rednecks, mullets, trailer park trash, women without all thier teeth, kids on the slow bus, knocked my my daughter up at 14 and it's still just a chevy. Ahhhhh now don't we all feel better.
I don't think you can compare a $15k Chevy to a Corvette. Does one make fun of VW V12 Phaeton becuase they make a $14k Rabbit? So let me get this right, if I pulled up in a $15k VW, that is probably OK, but if I pull up in a $70 Corvette, I am trash? Very strange if you think about it, that thinking is very superficial, stereotypical.
Yeah I was being sarcastic. I own a Z06.
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Erik said:
Did the test driver actually say that the Z06 "pisses all over the Porsche?" That's funny stuff if he did.
Could you please repeat this comment on the 997tt board?