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Re: Cayman S Upgrades Now Listed on RUF Website
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temm said:
A (Ruf) Cayman with the 3.8 X51 engine should be an interesting car...
Guys, the WHOLE package counts, not just adding a stronger engine to a Cayman.
All attempts to add stronger engines and achieve a "good" and "balanced" package have failed in the past. The reason is simple: there are no true performance parts available for these cars and what is even more important: Porsche never really cared about adding substantially more power to these cars. It reminds me of the discussion regarding track racing the Boxster a few years ago. Porsche never developped the Boxster with pro track racing in mind, so people didn't understand that the Boxster isn't the right car for that, even with 400 HP under the hood.
I remember the Boxster S with 996 GT3 engine, RS-Tuning modded it further and added a racing brake system, etc. to it. The owner, he also owned a 700 HP 993 Turbo, wasn't too happy with this car...he used it for track racing but sold it later on.
That car must be a freakin' blast to drive. 
Re: Cayman S Upgrades Now Listed on RUF Website
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trip said:
What the cayman really needs is LSD, that with better brakes, suspension, engine would be a good track car no?
If it also has a better chassis, aero package with better air intakes and rear wing and end fences, transmission and transmission cooling system, seats, roll cage, rims, gauges, steering wheel, clutch and flywheel, exhaust....
Re: Cayman S Upgrades Now Listed on RUF Website
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RC said:
Guys, the WHOLE package counts, not just adding a stronger engine to a Cayman.
All attempts to add stronger engines and achieve a "good" and "balanced" package have failed in the past. <snip>
I consider this a very inaccurate statement. My RUF 3600S (Boxster S with a 3.6L X51 engine) is incredibly balanced, well sorted, and a very effective machine. The 986/987 platforms can take FAR more than their current power levels, and never suffer for it.
I really have no idea where you got this impression. From one disgruntled tuner victim? From my experience, RUF does not sell anything but extremely well sorted cars. If your point is that it takes more than JUST the engine, than yes, some. But not a lot more. A stronger clutch is the only "shoring up" my donor boxster required to handle the extra power.
This does include track work, not just street, so my evaluation isn't one dimensional.
Boxsters and Caymans are starved for more HP to really free up their potential. Perhaps the Cayman really needs LSD as well, but I wouldn't call that an impossible problem to solve. The only thing holding back the 986/987 model line is the Porsche marketing dept.
Re: Cayman S Upgrades Now Listed on RUF Website
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trip said:
What the cayman really needs is LSD, that with better brakes, suspension, engine would be a good track car no?
Every car magazine known to man has named the Cayman the best handling non-racing/non-gt porsche ever. You would think that would be sufficient to be considered a "good track car". lol Sure the Cayman could handle more power. What car couldn't? But it is already an OUTSTANDING car. I think folks are losing sight of that. Heck, the Boxster is an outstanding car, and it has even less power.
Have you driven a Cayman? Unless you are comparing it to a turbo or some such, they are pretty darned fast already, and with a good driver behind the wheel, they will fly.
Re: Cayman S Upgrades Now Listed on RUF Website
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trip said:
What the cayman really needs is LSD, that with better brakes, suspension, engine would be a good track car no?
Every car magazine known to man has named the Cayman the best handling non-racing/non-gt porsche ever. You would think that would be sufficient to be considered a "good track car". lol Sure the Cayman could handle more power. What car couldn't? But it is already an OUTSTANDING car. I think folks are losing sight of that. Heck, the Boxster is an outstanding car, and it has even less power.
Have you driven a Cayman? Unless you are comparing it to a turbo or some such, they are pretty darned fast already, and with a good driver behind the wheel, they will fly.
I agree!!
I find it funny how a tread that starts off about Ruf upgrades can be turned into a way to slag the Cayman off in some way. Much the same as the other threads on this baised website. No wonder very few poeple post anything, it always turns into a bitch feast. The Cayman really made those 911 boys insecure, don't even mention the Boxster bunch
Same old same old suppose.
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