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May 27, 2006 7:52:26 PM
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Carlos from Spain
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Re: MS-Monaco in car footage
Doesn't show when after setting the fastest lap he gets stuck "without crashing" at Rascasse and then the car miracously "stalls" while Kimi and Alonso were flying to beat his lap, halting any attempts by other drivers to set a faster time just after he set his. How... "fortunate".
The marshalls openend an "investigation" on Schumi's actions but we know were that always ends...
The marshalls openend an "investigation" on Schumi's actions but we know were that always ends...
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he's been placed last on the start, yes Carlos??
Schumacher is stripped of pole
28 May 2006
Michael Schumacher (GER) Ferrari. Formula One World Championship, Rd 7, Monaco Grand Prix, Practice Day, Monte-Carlo, Monaco, 25 May 2006Michael Schumacher has been moved to the back of the grid for the Monaco Grand Prix after stewards concluded that he deliberately blocked the track in the closing stages of qualifying, preventing rivals from beating his time.
The decision - which came eight hours later - means Renault's Fernando Alonso will now start from pole position with the Williams of Mark Webber alongside him. Schumacher is demoted to the back row, where he will join Ferrari team mate Felipe Massa, who crashed out of qualifying without setting a time.
Schumacher appeared to lock his brakes and then run wide as he entered the final Rascasse corner in the dying moments of the session. The former champion regained control without hitting the barriers, but came to a halt with his stalled car partially blocking the circuit, forcing other drivers to slow down.
Following the session, the stewards heard evidence concerning the incident from Schumacher - who claimed it was a genuine error - as well as Ferrari personnel. They also reviewed video footage and data evidence supplied by the team and the FIA.
Their finding was that Schumacher had no justifiable reason for braking so hard, as he had been traveling little or no quicker than at the same point on previous laps. They therefore concluded that he deliberately stopped his car on the circuit, an infringement of the sporting regulations.
As punishment the stewards deleted all of Schumacher's qualifying times, hence his move to the back of the grid, from where he has little or no chance of taking a record-equaling sixth Monaco Grand Prix win.
Ferrari's Jean Todt expressed the team's displeasure at the stewards' findings, saying: "We totally disagree with it. Such a decision creates a very serious precedent, ruling out the possibility of driver error. Michael was on his final timed lap and he was trying to put his first place beyond doubt, as could be seen from the fact that his first split time was the best and could have seen him do another very good lap. With no real evidence, the stewards have assumed he is guilty."
The FIA will publish the grid in full as usual on Sunday morning.
May 28, 2006 8:52:29 AM
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Carlos from Spain
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Re: MS-Monaco in car footage
I can't believe the marshals had the guts to do it! guess I was wrong 
Thank god for telemetry, telemetry doesn't lie. He got what he deserved
I can't think of drivers like Kimi, Barichello, Alonso, etc. pulling such a stunt... but this is not a first for one of the schumacher brothers 
his post-quailifying press conference declaration saying with a straight face how he inocently locked his brakes and didn't even know he had pole reminded me of that "I d i d n o t h a v e s e x w i t h M o n i c a L e w i n s k i" on national TV
Thank god for telemetry, telemetry doesn't lie. He got what he deserved
I can't think of drivers like Kimi, Barichello, Alonso, etc. pulling such a stunt... but this is not a first for one of the schumacher brothers
his post-quailifying press conference declaration saying with a straight face how he inocently locked his brakes and didn't even know he had pole reminded me of that "I d i d n o t h a v e s e x w i t h M o n i c a L e w i n s k i" on national TV
Re: MS-Monaco in car footage
Schuy The Screwy gets some reactions about Monaco.
Britain's three-times world champion Sir Jackie Stewart was equally outraged. "Unfortunately, this was too blatant," he said. "When you see it in slow motion, he had plenty of time to do something."
Keke Rosberg, the world champion in 1982, called Schumacher "a cheap cheat" adding: "He should leave F1 to honest people. I thought he had grown up. Does he think we are all fools or idiots?"
Despite winning a record number of world titles, with 86 race victories along the way, Schumacher's status as one of the greats of the sport is tainted by controversy.
His first world title in 1994 was clinched only after a collision with his nearest rival Damon Hill in Adelaide.
In 1997, he was stripped of all his season's points after he drove into Jacques Villeneuve in Jerez in a failed attempt to stop the Canadian taking the title.
And lets not forget his "Victory Lap" at last years Indy GP.
What a guy!
Britain's three-times world champion Sir Jackie Stewart was equally outraged. "Unfortunately, this was too blatant," he said. "When you see it in slow motion, he had plenty of time to do something."
Keke Rosberg, the world champion in 1982, called Schumacher "a cheap cheat" adding: "He should leave F1 to honest people. I thought he had grown up. Does he think we are all fools or idiots?"
Despite winning a record number of world titles, with 86 race victories along the way, Schumacher's status as one of the greats of the sport is tainted by controversy.
His first world title in 1994 was clinched only after a collision with his nearest rival Damon Hill in Adelaide.
In 1997, he was stripped of all his season's points after he drove into Jacques Villeneuve in Jerez in a failed attempt to stop the Canadian taking the title.
And lets not forget his "Victory Lap" at last years Indy GP.
What a guy!
Re: MS-Monaco in car footage
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JimFlat6 said:
Schuy The Screwy gets some reactions about Monaco.
Britain's three-times world champion Sir Jackie Stewart was equally outraged. "Unfortunately, this was too blatant," he said. "When you see it in slow motion, he had plenty of time to do something."
Keke Rosberg, the world champion in 1982, called Schumacher "a cheap cheat" adding: "He should leave F1 to honest people. I thought he had grown up. Does he think we are all fools or idiots?"
Despite winning a record number of world titles, with 86 race victories along the way, Schumacher's status as one of the greats of the sport is tainted by controversy.
His first world title in 1994 was clinched only after a collision with his nearest rival Damon Hill in Adelaide.
In 1997, he was stripped of all his season's points after he drove into Jacques Villeneuve in Jerez in a failed attempt to stop the Canadian taking the title.
And lets not forget his "Victory Lap" at last years Indy GP.
What a guy!
True. But heś the best and will stop at nothing to win. Would hate to have the guy as a friend, but this is what makes for an entertaining performance.
May 29, 2006 3:45:39 PM
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Re: MS-Monaco in car footage
What happened on the Indy victory lap?
People seem to forget, but no matter what happens to his reputation it doesn't take away from someone's skill. I mean if we were able to determine he cheated his way through every fast lap he's ever done then they would have a point, but what he does best is a clean fast (race) lap, and those are rarely controversial.(at least for the driver, they certainly can be on the tech side)
I just don't understand this. I haven't seen the footage, but I assume he is guilty, but how is this a huge scandal. To me it doesn't seem to compare to what he did in the race with Villeneuve. He was punished much more severely for that too!
People seem to forget, but no matter what happens to his reputation it doesn't take away from someone's skill. I mean if we were able to determine he cheated his way through every fast lap he's ever done then they would have a point, but what he does best is a clean fast (race) lap, and those are rarely controversial.(at least for the driver, they certainly can be on the tech side)
I just don't understand this. I haven't seen the footage, but I assume he is guilty, but how is this a huge scandal. To me it doesn't seem to compare to what he did in the race with Villeneuve. He was punished much more severely for that too!
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