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deedee said:
10K USD for an American car?? NO WAY.... And Corvette depreciates like rocket in my city..... Plus, never interested in hotrod type of automobile... They say it's simple formula but gets the job done... What a gr8 excuse....
i dunno about you but i'd buy a vette for 10k
I will take two at $10K, now that's bang for the bucks
May 4, 2006 11:53:14 PM
- bondmid003
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Re: Hooray for GM
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The Groom said:
I think we should not let ourselves become overconfident. Any manufacturer that does eventually becomes irrelevant.
It would be foolish to hastily dismiss the Z06 as some do on this board. It might be poorly built, but it's a rocket. There is no question it is a serious sports car. The Ring times speak for themselves. And I wasn't even considering the price, which is a real bargain.
However, I would not buy one. I have a hard time owning more than one car (sorry, Mike S), so I need more than a rough sports car like the Z06. It's just not versatile, not comfortable, not refined enough. The 911 works for me because it's both a great sports car and a capable daily driver.
I'm curious as to why you don't think the Z is a daily driver. Its my only car I have up here where i'm stationed and whenever I go out I obviously have to drive it. It's an awesome daily driver and thats from experience.
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nberry said:
According to Tom Wallace the performance car chief for GM, they are considering requiring that the Blue Devil and even the Z06 buyers attend a driver school as part of the price of admission.
Maybe GM knows something about the driving abilities of your typical 'Vette buyer....
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95jersey said:I have inside knowledge about the blue devil and it has been designed to match or out accelerate, handle, brake an ENZO/GT. It is not a hot rod or some 1/4 mile drag racer as already proven by the C6Z06. It will ABSOLUTELY be in the top 3 fastest street cars in the world for less than 1/4 of the price of it's competitors.
And, if standard accounting procedures are applied, GM will more than lose its a$$ on every one of them.
Every car will be a HUGE charitable contribution to anyone who buys one.
GM might as well give away money to its customers, the UAW has taken way more than their share
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W8MM said:Quote:
95jersey said:I have inside knowledge about the blue devil and it has been designed to match or out accelerate, handle, brake an ENZO/GT. It is not a hot rod or some 1/4 mile drag racer as already proven by the C6Z06. It will ABSOLUTELY be in the top 3 fastest street cars in the world for less than 1/4 of the price of it's competitors.
And, if standard accounting procedures are applied, GM will more than lose its a$$ on every one of them.
Every car will be a HUGE charitable contribution to anyone who buys one.
GM might as well give away money to its customers, the UAW has taken way more than their share
GAAP or non-GAAP compliant accounting: GM loses money any which way.
As much as I appreciate a great sports car, bargain or not -- GM should save its capital and put it towards other things such as oh, I don't know -- increasing shareholder wealth and paying off debt so they can get their pathetic credit ratings up
Re: Hooray for GM
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ajcastaneda said:Quote:
W8MM said:Quote:
95jersey said:I have inside knowledge about the blue devil and it has been designed to match or out accelerate, handle, brake an ENZO/GT. It is not a hot rod or some 1/4 mile drag racer as already proven by the C6Z06. It will ABSOLUTELY be in the top 3 fastest street cars in the world for less than 1/4 of the price of it's competitors.
And, if standard accounting procedures are applied, GM will more than lose its a$$ on every one of them.
Every car will be a HUGE charitable contribution to anyone who buys one.
GM might as well give away money to its customers, the UAW has taken way more than their share
GAAP or non-GAAP compliant accounting: GM loses money any which way.
As much as I appreciate a great sports car, bargain or not -- GM should save its capital and put it towards other things such as oh, I don't know -- increasing shareholder wealth and paying off debt so they can get their pathetic credit ratings up
What the Blue Devil and the Z06 does (will do) for GM's image is more important than taking the actual money it costs to build the car and pay off debt.
Re: Hooray for GM
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95jersey said:Quote:
ajcastaneda said:Quote:
W8MM said:Quote:
95jersey said:I have inside knowledge about the blue devil and it has been designed to match or out accelerate, handle, brake an ENZO/GT. It is not a hot rod or some 1/4 mile drag racer as already proven by the C6Z06. It will ABSOLUTELY be in the top 3 fastest street cars in the world for less than 1/4 of the price of it's competitors.
And, if standard accounting procedures are applied, GM will more than lose its a$$ on every one of them.
Every car will be a HUGE charitable contribution to anyone who buys one.
GM might as well give away money to its customers, the UAW has taken way more than their share
GAAP or non-GAAP compliant accounting: GM loses money any which way.
As much as I appreciate a great sports car, bargain or not -- GM should save its capital and put it towards other things such as oh, I don't know -- increasing shareholder wealth and paying off debt so they can get their pathetic credit ratings up
What the Blue Devil and the Z06 does (will do) for GM's image is more important than taking the actual money it costs to build the car and pay off debt.
Since GM's image (among other things) needs a lot of work anyway, might as well try and improve it.
Re: Hooray for GM
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The Groom said:
I think we should not let ourselves become overconfident. Any manufacturer that does eventually becomes irrelevant.
It would be foolish to hastily dismiss the Z06 as some do on this board. It might be poorly built, but it's a rocket. There is no question it is a serious sports car. The Ring times speak for themselves. And I wasn't even considering the price, which is a real bargain.
However, I would not buy one. I have a hard time owning more than one car (sorry, Mike S
If I could afford to buy several cars, one of them would most probably be a Corvette SS, but never as a substitute for a Turbo, no matter how fast or powerful it were.
May 5, 2006 5:44:04 PM
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Re: Hooray for GM
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bondmid003 said:
I'm curious as to why you don't think the Z is a daily driver. Its my only car I have up here where i'm stationed and whenever I go out I obviously have to drive it. It's an awesome daily driver and thats from experience.
I only got to drive the stock C6. It felt both too cheap inside and too incomfortable. It felt ill at ease in the snow. Seriously, it does no compare in any way with a 911 as far as convenience is concerned. I expect a Z06 to be even more radical, so...
But hell, I had a friend who drove his Elise daily! To each their own...
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