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    Apr 26, 2006 12:39:39 AM

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    Motor Trend Test

    I just received my 6/2006 issue and they tested the 997TT Tip.

    Very Impressive!!

    " When the numbers start to appear on my laptop's screen, I take a step back. Zero to 60 in 3.2 seconds, the quarter in 11.4 at 120.5 mph. This is supernaturally fast, way quicker than Porsche's 3.7 0-100 kph claim."

    Amir

    Apr 26, 2006 1:01:01 AM

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    Re: Motor Trend Test

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    AmirGT2 said:...the quarter in 11.4 at 120.5 mph.



    Way low trap speed for an 11.4 sec quarter. Are you sure it was just 120.5 mph??

    Apr 26, 2006 1:22:13 AM

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    Re: Motor Trend Test

    I thought the same thing but that's what it said.

    Amir

    Apr 26, 2006 1:27:36 AM

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    Re: Motor Trend Test

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    AmirGT2 said:
    I just received my 6/2006 issue and they tested the 997TT Tip.

    Very Impressive!!

    " When the numbers start to appear on my laptop's screen, I take a step back. Zero to 60 in 3.2 seconds, the quarter in 11.4 at 120.5 mph. This is supernaturally fast, way quicker than Porsche's 3.7 0-100 kph claim."

    Amir



    That is simply AMAZING!!!!

    Does it say if that car had the Sport Chrono option?

    Apr 26, 2006 1:38:57 AM

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    Re: Motor Trend Test

    any pics of mag?

    Apr 26, 2006 1:44:56 AM

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    Re: Motor Trend Test

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    Tony007 said:
    Quote:
    AmirGT2 said:
    I just received my 6/2006 issue and they tested the 997TT Tip.

    Very Impressive!!

    " When the numbers start to appear on my laptop's screen, I take a step back. Zero to 60 in 3.2 seconds, the quarter in 11.4 at 120.5 mph. This is supernaturally fast, way quicker than Porsche's 3.7 0-100 kph claim."

    Amir



    That is simply AMAZING!!!!

    Does it say if that car had the Sport Chrono option?



    Yes it did have the Sport Chrono. I'll try and get it scanned when I get home.

    Amir

    Apr 26, 2006 2:00:28 AM

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    Re: Motor Trend Test

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    AmirGT2 said:
    Quote:
    Tony007 said:
    Quote:
    AmirGT2 said:
    I just received my 6/2006 issue and they tested the 997TT Tip.

    Very Impressive!!

    " When the numbers start to appear on my laptop's screen, I take a step back. Zero to 60 in 3.2 seconds, the quarter in 11.4 at 120.5 mph. This is supernaturally fast, way quicker than Porsche's 3.7 0-100 kph claim."

    Amir



    That is simply AMAZING!!!!

    Does it say if that car had the Sport Chrono option?



    Yes it did have the Sport Chrono. I'll try and get it scanned when I get home.

    Amir



    Yes. I can't wait for the "S." How about 0-60 sub-3?

    Apr 26, 2006 2:06:03 AM

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    Can't wait to read the article.

    I wonder what the reason would be for such a fast 1/4 mile time with a relatively low trap speed.

    Apr 26, 2006 2:07:34 AM

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    I thought the same thing but that's what it said.

    Amir



    The trap speed has to be a typo in the magazine. It would have to be at least 125 mph with that ET.

    Apr 26, 2006 2:09:36 AM

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    Please Scan ASAP. Those are Great #'s.

    Apr 26, 2006 2:20:38 AM

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    I don't usually read MT, but I would think any established car magazine would never allow a typo to be present in the performance figures of a car like the 997 Turbo. However, I can't think of any other explanation.

    Apr 26, 2006 2:23:47 AM

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    Acceleration is not linear, maybe it is so fast off the line, trap speed becomes irrelevant.

    Apr 26, 2006 2:26:35 AM

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    While these are impressive numbers, it also discredits Porsche's claim of an 11.6 sec 0-124 mph time. Surely, it would take more than .2 sec to go from 120.5mph to 124.

    An 11.9 to 12.1 sec for 0-124 is more likely for Tip. Not very impressive.

    Apr 26, 2006 2:30:21 AM

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    Re: Motor Trend Test

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    I don't usually read MT, but I would think any established car magazine would never allow a typo to be present in the performance figures of a car like the 997 Turbo. However, I can't think of any other explanation.



    The low trap speed just doesn't match the ET. A stock 996 Turbo can trap within a couple mph of the 997 TT's number with a 11.9-12.2 ET.

    BTW, in the April issue of MT where they tested the 997 S against the C6Z Vette, they said in the article..."The cars are also in a virtual dead-heat in our figure-eight test, with the Corvette running a tenth of a second quicker." In their data table listing all the performance numbers, the 997 S is listed at 25.8 sec in the figure-eight, and the Vette is listed at 24.9 sec....obviously not a difference of just one tenth.

    They do make mistakes.

    Apr 26, 2006 2:31:59 AM

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    Acceleration is not linear, maybe it is so fast off the line, trap speed becomes irrelevant.



    That would mean the car doesn't pull *at all* above ~60 mph.

    Not a chance.

    Apr 26, 2006 2:46:09 AM

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    I don't usually read MT, but I would think any established car magazine would never allow a typo to be present in the performance figures of a car like the 997 Turbo. However, I can't think of any other explanation.



    The low trap speed just doesn't match the ET. A stock 996 Turbo can trap within a couple mph of the 997 TT's number with a 11.9-12.2 ET.

    BTW, in the April issue of MT where they tested the 997 S against the C6Z Vette, they said in the article..."The cars are also in a virtual dead-heat in our figure-eight test, with the Corvette running a tenth of a second quicker." In their data table listing all the performance numbers, the 997 S is listed at 25.8 sec in the figure-eight, and the Vette is listed at 24.9 sec....obviously not a difference of just one tenth.

    They do make mistakes.



    Interesting.

    IMO then it MUST be a mistake. If the numbers quoted by svtrader1 are accurate, they act as even more evidence. Porsche is usually conservative with performance figures, and if the mph in MT was accurate, the Turbo obviously wouldn't accelerate from 120-124 in 0.2 seconds to achieve 0-124mph in 11.6.
    I think a trap speed of ca. 125mph would be just about right.

    Apr 26, 2006 2:51:33 AM

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    DamienL said:I think a trap speed of ca. 125mph would be just about right.



    Yes.

    Apr 26, 2006 3:09:21 AM

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    cmon cmon.. whats the problem.. the 1/4 mile wasnt good? 11.4? you are talking that 120mph at the final wasnt that GOOD??

    Apr 26, 2006 3:37:18 AM

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    Re: Motor Trend Test

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    AmirGT2 said:
    I just received my 6/2006 issue and they tested the 997TT Tip.

    Very Impressive!!

    " When the numbers start to appear on my laptop's screen, I take a step back. Zero to 60 in 3.2 seconds, the quarter in 11.4 at 120.5 mph. This is supernaturally fast, way quicker than Porsche's 3.7 0-100 kph claim."

    Amir



    Amir I don't know what they were burning in the TT but those numbers are very close to CGT numbers. Something must be wrong. The CGT has 610hp and weights about 400lbs less.

    Apr 26, 2006 4:12:41 AM

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    Nick, don't forget the advantages of a lot more torque than the Carrera GT and AWD. I'm actually more curious to see what the 0 - 100 time will be like on the 997TT.

    Apr 26, 2006 4:19:00 AM

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    cmon cmon.. whats the problem.. the 1/4 mile wasnt good? 11.4? you are talking that 120mph at the final wasnt that GOOD??



    The problem is a trap speed of 120.5 mph is way too low for an ET of 11.4 sec.

    Apr 26, 2006 4:27:22 AM

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    Nick, don't forget the advantages of a lot more torque than the Carrera GT and AWD.



    It's about horsepower...the CGT traps at 132 mph on an ET of 11.2.

    If the 997 Turbo ran an 11.4, that's great. But it didn't do it at 120.5 mph. And it also means that it has more power than Porsche is claiming.

    Apr 26, 2006 4:36:03 AM

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    hmm its impossible 11.4 @ 120mph????

    Apr 26, 2006 4:37:04 AM

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    Amir...i'm guessing this issues is on newstands now? Going to have to go get it...about how long is the article?

    Apr 26, 2006 4:49:18 AM

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    hmm its impossible 11.4 @ 120mph????



    Sure...if you step on the brakes hard before the end of the quarter mile in a car that had a 10.8 ET going.

    Apr 26, 2006 5:18:42 AM

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    Re: Motor Trend Test

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    Quote:
    AmirGT2 said:
    I just received my 6/2006 issue and they tested the 997TT Tip.

    Very Impressive!!

    " When the numbers start to appear on my laptop's screen, I take a step back. Zero to 60 in 3.2 seconds, the quarter in 11.4 at 120.5 mph. This is supernaturally fast, way quicker than Porsche's 3.7 0-100 kph claim."

    Amir



    Amir I don't know what they were burning in the TT but those numbers are very close to CGT numbers. Something must be wrong. The CGT has 610hp and weights about 400lbs less.



    and is very traction limited @ for the launch. AWD does wonders for 0-60 & 60ft times

    Apr 26, 2006 5:25:07 AM

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    I'm confused Admir. It ran across your computer screeen, but your going to scan it when you get home?

    Apr 26, 2006 5:34:01 AM

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    what a car!! what a car!!!!!

    i can't wait till september!!!!

    i whant my turboooooooooo!!!!!!!!

    Apr 26, 2006 6:22:37 AM

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    I'm confused Admir. It ran across your computer screeen, but your going to scan it when you get home?



    I think he is quoting the article (see quotation marks), otherwise good observation on your part, and welcome

    Apr 26, 2006 7:09:12 AM

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    Thats fast... VERY FAST
     
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