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Apr 22, 2014 8:27:36 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

bluelines:

reginos:

@bluelines:

Does your car have the Power Steering Plus option (658)?

If yes, what are your impressions as regards feel and handling?

Yes, it does, but I can't say I noticed much difference to my 997. If anything, then only positive. We were at Dijon-Prenois for a track day today and the steering feel is just excellent. The whole car is excellent in fact.

The handling is on a different level than the 997. Really different level. Such great balance! Feels and behaves like a mid-engined car. In addition, the AWD pulls the car out of the turns and PDK Sport Plus is spot on, every time. The car is fast, very fast. Too fast for me to be honest 10 points out of 10!

Thank you for your reply and photos.

The comments so far about the PS Plus system have been negative in that it makes the steering over-light at low speeds (hairpins and slow corners, low speed cornering in the rain etc.).

From what you are experiencing, it appears that this system suits the AWD cars very well.

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Apr 22, 2014 8:41:57 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: reginos

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

reginos:

bluelines:

reginos:

@bluelines:

Does your car have the Power Steering Plus option (658)?

If yes, what are your impressions as regards feel and handling?

Yes, it does, but I can't say I noticed much difference to my 997. If anything, then only positive. We were at Dijon-Prenois for a track day today and the steering feel is just excellent. The whole car is excellent in fact.

The handling is on a different level than the 997. Really different level. Such great balance! Feels and behaves like a mid-engined car. In addition, the AWD pulls the car out of the turns and PDK Sport Plus is spot on, every time. The car is fast, very fast. Too fast for me to be honest 10 points out of 10!

Thank you for your reply and photos.

The comments so far about the PS Plus system have been negative in that it makes the steering over-light at low speeds (hairpins and slow corners, low speed cornering in the rain etc.).

From what you are experiencing, it appears that this system suits the AWD cars very well.

Ok, I never experienced that. We did a fair amount of hairpins, in the wet, when driving to Dijon. Great feedback in the steering and the car simply goes where you point it. Perfect in my book. Maybe not in some journalists', but they have to write about something.

From what I understand the Power Steering Plus is only enabled up to 50km/h.

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Apr 23, 2014 4:48:39 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

I know the 50km/h cut off point, but the criticism related to the initiation of a turn (e.g. roundabout etc) at low speeds or the car having a slide in the wet at low speeds, before the steering firms.

Nevertheless, owners' real world impressions is always the best source of information. Thanks kiss

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Apr 23, 2014 6:54:50 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: reginos

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

A few more photos from our track day in Dijon-Prenois. Including the essentials: the delicious breakfast in the B&B place near the track indecision It is worth staying there just for the breakfast.

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Apr 23, 2014 7:12:10 PM

SuzyF: Expert; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 1306, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2013; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

Very nice pictures bluelines!!! Thanx for sharing kiss

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Apr 23, 2014 7:46:59 PM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

Bluelines,

I wanted to congratulate as well for the pics of your car and the other cars and the pastries and the desserts ... - uh, wait a minute ! - No, go to hell !! You could have apologized for NOT bringing any of the sweet stuff back home and share it with your RT-fellows Smiley - you are so ignorant to the needs of the peolpe in your neighborhood !

Ok, ok, glad you liked it and your car looks stunning ! Smiley Though, what, if you would have decided to get a 997 GTS earlier ? 408 hp to 400 hp...more alcantara...no extra weight from the AWD... Smiley ... Smiley

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Apr 23, 2014 7:59:50 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: d997h

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

d997h:

Bluelines,

I wanted to congratulate as well for the pics of your car and the other cars and the pastries and the desserts ... - uh, wait a minute ! - No, go to hell !! You could have apologized for NOT bringing any of the sweet stuff back home and share it with your RT-fellows - you are so ignorant to the needs of the peolpe in your neighborhood !

Ok, ok, glad you liked it and your car looks stunning ! Though, what, if you would have decided to get a 997 GTS earlier ? 408 hp to 400 hp...more alcantara...no extra weight from the AWD......

Thanks. We brought lots of sweet stuff, but it did not even last to the Swiss border Smiley

The 997.2 GTS is a sweet car. My all-time 997 favourite. It should be on par with the 991 in a straight line, but does not benefit from the new chassis. The balance and handling of the 991 is waaay better. It feels closer to my old 981 than the 997. That should say a lot Smiley

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Apr 23, 2014 9:33:41 PM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8059, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

First five pics go to show there's a little Easy in all of us... smiley
Thanks for the pics Bluelines, looks like you had a great time!

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Apr 24, 2014 4:01:55 AM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: Joost

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

Joost:

First five pics go to show there's a little Easy in all of us...
Thanks for the pics Bluelines, looks like you had a great time!

Smiley

So true. He is the undefeated master though. My amateurish attempts are embarrassing in comparison.

Thanks. We had a really great time. Smiley

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Apr 24, 2014 1:52:12 PM

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , United States; Posts: 8862, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2008; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

Great pics bluelines ! Your car looks great and so do the others at the track day. you evidently had a great time throwing it around the track. And the B&B pics we're just perfect, we do love our food pics here in RT indecision

Could you elaborate a bit on the driving feel of the C4 on track. I read a few reviews that state that the car mostly feels like a typical RWD 911 until you really get to the limit.

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Apr 24, 2014 1:54:33 PM

M3ike: Pilot; Loc: Wil, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 316, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 14, 2007; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

great pics! sad we missed each other, I was attending a trackday last week from April 16-17 . was my first time in dijon, great track. was with FMT and used Gedlich coaching with data recording. did 1.32min laps, easily another 1.5 seconds left on the table.

greetiings from moscow

mike

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Apr 24, 2014 3:24:06 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: Enmanuel

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

Enmanuel:

Great pics bluelines ! Your car looks great and so do the others at the track day. you evidently had a great time throwing it around the track. And the B&B pics we're just perfect, we do love our food pics here in RT

Could you elaborate a bit on the driving feel of the C4 on track. I read a few reviews that state that the car mostly feels like a typical RWD 911 until you really get to the limit.

Thanks! Food pics are always good Smiley

Yes, I concur with those reviews.

Firstly, as already mentioned, the chassis is very well balanced and the handling excellent. Gone is the nervousness from the 997 when quickly changing direction or braking. You could always feel the heavy rear making resistance and the car going a bit wobbly. Even coming off power or changing direction in the middle of a hard turn does not upset the car.

Secondly, the car feels like a RWD car and during normal driving you don't notice the front wheels doing anything. Nor does the steering feel like an AWD car, this is what I disliked the most with the AWD 997 cars. However, when you push it out of a sweeping turn (and I had plenty of opportunity in Dijon) you feel the front wheels powering up and digging into the tarmac. Then pulling you nicely out of the turn without any understeer. A very similar feel to the GT-R. Magic.

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Apr 24, 2014 6:01:56 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: SuzyF

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

SuzyF:

Very nice pictures bluelines!!! Thanx for sharing

Thanks! Smiley

Next time you join us Suzy? Stretch the legs of your 981 Smiley

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Apr 24, 2014 6:05:08 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: M3ike

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

M3ike:

great pics! sad we missed each other, I was attending a trackday last week from April 16-17 . was my first time in dijon, great track. was with FMT and used Gedlich coaching with data recording. did 1.32min laps, easily another 1.5 seconds left on the table.

greetiings from moscow

mike

Good to hear Mike! Yes, sad we missed each other. FMT did the suspension work on my old Boxster Smiley Nice guys.

Dijon is a really great track. The elevations adds to the fun. It is just hard on the tires.

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May 2, 2014 11:57:00 AM

M3ike: Pilot; Loc: Wil, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 316, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 14, 2007; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

Just Seen you this morning at 7.40 am driving over the quai bridge. Nice Car, sounded great!

cheers

Mike

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May 2, 2014 12:00:13 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: M3ike

Re: Dark Blue Metallic Carrera 4S

M3ike:

Just Seen you this morning at 7.40 am driving over the quai bridge. Nice Car, sounded great!

cheers

Mike

Hehe, thanks Smiley Yes that was me Smiley

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