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Re: New FF
crayphile:
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m4ever:
Any photos of the interior?None yet - will post in a couple of weeks after the detail
Here are some post detail shots. Its clearer to me even more than before that the Rosso Fuoco works because of the panoramic roof which gets over the too much red bulk on other V12s in red. The roof panoramic roof also makes an enormous difference to the interior.
It´s the most beautiful interior in this class, simply amazing all that leather, seats shape and carbon fiber bits, perfect.
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Re: New FF
Ferdie:
The car looks truly stunning. Can you shed some light on the handling differences between FF and F12, if you don´t mind?
They are very different indeed. The FF feels much heavier and slower, and of course has the four wheel drive system which cuts in reasonably abruptly in Comfort mode, but less so in Sport. The F12 is an extraordinary car, it always feels "alive" and like a beast straining at the leash, much twitchier than the FF, and the fastest steering of any normal production car I have ever experienced. Its a real challenge to drive quickly if you are not careful, especially in the wet (in fact best not to do anything remotely silly on normal roads in the wet). Net net, other than the wondrous Ferrari V12 sound, you cannot compare the two - they are completely different cars.
Re: New FF
crayphile:
Ferdie:
The car looks truly stunning. Can you shed some light on the handling differences between FF and F12, if you don´t mind?
They are very different indeed. The FF feels much heavier and slower, and of course has the four wheel drive system which cuts in reasonably abruptly in Comfort mode, but less so in Sport. The F12 is an extraordinary car, it always feels "alive" and like a beast straining at the leash, much twitchier than the FF, and the fastest steering of any normal production car I have ever experienced. Its a real challenge to drive quickly if you are not careful, especially in the wet (in fact best not to do anything remotely silly on normal roads in the wet). Net net, other than the wondrous Ferrari V12 sound, you cannot compare the two - they are completely different cars.
This is what I loved about the F12. Wonderful Ferrari and I wonder why many Ferraristi or even potential customers seem to give the F12 the cold shoulder. Doesn't make any sense to me. 
I've driven the FF only once for a short time and I liked it but I cannot really remember the car, don't know why (maybe I'm getting old). The interior however is very nice indeed, so is the F12 interior. Actually, this is part of the owner experience.
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Re: New FF
RC:
crayphile:
Ferdie:
The car looks truly stunning. Can you shed some light on the handling differences between FF and F12, if you don´t mind?
They are very different indeed. The FF feels much heavier and slower, and of course has the four wheel drive system which cuts in reasonably abruptly in Comfort mode, but less so in Sport. The F12 is an extraordinary car, it always feels "alive" and like a beast straining at the leash, much twitchier than the FF, and the fastest steering of any normal production car I have ever experienced. Its a real challenge to drive quickly if you are not careful, especially in the wet (in fact best not to do anything remotely silly on normal roads in the wet). Net net, other than the wondrous Ferrari V12 sound, you cannot compare the two - they are completely different cars.
This is what I loved about the F12. Wonderful Ferrari and I wonder why many Ferraristi or even potential customers seem to give the F12 the cold shoulder. Doesn't make any sense to me.
No doubt the F12 is one of the best cars on the road. Sadly, once you take delivery the depreciation can be very painful. To some that is of little consequence but to most of us it is a bitter reality.
Christian, buy the car a year or two from now after the depreciation has stabilized.
Apr 1, 2014 9:11:57 PM
- EnglishManInNY
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Re: New FF
All the V12s suffer from bad depreciation ultimately. But the F12 doesn't look to be right now in the US
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/Search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx?itemid=2134806
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Re: New FF
nberry:Christian, buy the car a year or two from now after the depreciation has stabilized.
I have to wait until my 991 Turbo S lease runs out and then I'll decide what comes next. According to my wife, no Ferrari and no Lamborghini though, everything else is acceptable (not sure she would be OK with a McLaren or a Bugatti though...not that I can afford one 
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The F12 is really a fine car, I wish I could own one.
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Re: New FF
RC:
nberry:Christian, buy the car a year or two from now after the depreciation has stabilized.
I have to wait until my 991 Turbo S lease runs out and then I'll decide what comes next. According to my wife, no Ferrari and no Lamborghini though, everything else is acceptable (not sure she would be OK with a McLaren or a Bugatti though...not that I can afford one
The F12 is really a fine car, I wish I could own one.
Can always think of the Ferrari is just a expensive Fiat!
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Re: New FF
bridggar:
RC - you've had the Boxster & TTS for too long now - surely must be time for a change....
No more changes before the leases run out (30 months or so), maybe an addition (still thinking about a Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 SVT or a Super Snake). My current combo 991 Turbo S and Jeep SRT is perfect for my needs and my wife is very happy with driving the Boxster S and still having a smaller SUV like her X3 for city commuting with the kids. No need for something new, it seems I have found the perfect combo for us.
Right now I am also very busy with work, my boating license and other "projects". Not even sure how long I am going to be around Rennteam anymore to be honest. 
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Re: New FF
nberry:
No doubt the F12 is one of the best cars on the road. Sadly, once you take delivery the depreciation can be very painful. To some that is of little consequence but to most of us it is a bitter reality.
Christian, buy the car a year or two from now after the depreciation has stabilized.
Nick, if I ever own a F12, this means I made it to Miami. 
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Re: New FF
RC:
crayphile:
Ferdie:
The car looks truly stunning. Can you shed some light on the handling differences between FF and F12, if you don´t mind?
They are very different indeed. The FF feels much heavier and slower, and of course has the four wheel drive system which cuts in reasonably abruptly in Comfort mode, but less so in Sport. The F12 is an extraordinary car, it always feels "alive" and like a beast straining at the leash, much twitchier than the FF, and the fastest steering of any normal production car I have ever experienced. Its a real challenge to drive quickly if you are not careful, especially in the wet (in fact best not to do anything remotely silly on normal roads in the wet). Net net, other than the wondrous Ferrari V12 sound, you cannot compare the two - they are completely different cars.
This is what I loved about the F12. Wonderful Ferrari and I wonder why many Ferraristi or even potential customers seem to give the F12 the cold shoulder. Doesn't make any sense to me.
Christian,
F12 is the best GT car in the World and a beautiful car -inside & out, BUT the character of the car is not as sportive as mid-engine V8 Ferraris even if F12 is faster. If I have money for only 1 Ferrari, it would be always the mid-engine V8. If I can afford the second one, it is F12. This is the reason why many potential customers give cold shoulder to V12.
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Re: New FF
crayphile:
sfo:panoramic roof is fantastic .. absolutely love itdoes it have a blind or is there a button to make it dark like MB's Magic Sky Control?
There is no blind or chromatic control function. Not an issue in the UK, but I do wonder how it will perform in hotter climates
This is typical Fiat... building such a car for a quarter Million bucks and forget to put in a blind 
Apr 13, 2014 5:03:39 PM
- EnglishManInNY
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Re: New FF
I encountered my first F12 on the road today. Seen many FFs. The F12 looks so much better in person. The rear being the real surprise in a positive way. The front looks a little unfinished - too much plastic. The car was in a pearl like white. I was in my TTS. He didn't want to play. I think I need to save up some more for my next car 
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Apr 24, 2014 1:26:14 PM
- EnglishManInNY
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Re: New FF
The FF is v practical! 
http://www.worldcarfans.com/114042373866/ferrari-ff-spotted-carrying-lumber-in-virginia
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