Nov 6, 2011 9:33:02 PM
My guess is also Cayenne GTS. On the other side...when its available in spring 2012, a debut in Geneva makes more sense.
..or what´s about a final edition of 911 turbo!? Comparable to 911 Carrera GTS.
560hp - 580hp plus further interior/exterior goodies...!?
Would be nice, or?
Nov 7, 2011 6:20:34 PM
It's too soon for the 991 Cab + it won't come in fall. More like early spring next year.
I also don't think it's the 550 because we haven't seen any mules or any hints yet anywhere.
A GTS version isn't exciting enough, some black edition a sad joke...
I suspect the Boxster unveiling.
indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine.. I happen to like both :)
Nov 7, 2011 6:35:39 PM
Trust me, it's the 991 cab according to my "source". The timing makes sense as the car is going to be in showrooms in early Spring. The coupe was shown at Frankfurt in September and will be in showrooms 4 months later in December. The cab will be shown at LA and in showrooms within the same sort of timescale
Don't forget the cab's have been spotted driving around California in the various convoys practically undisguised.
Nov 7, 2011 9:12:06 PM
Porsche world premiere at the Los Angeles Auto Show 2011...
(7 November 2011)
Porsche is dispatching two new stars to the Los Angeles Auto Show 2011: the Porsche press conference will put the spotlight on the debut of the new 911 Carrera in North American and on the world premiere of a model boasting impressive performance and dynamic looks, exuding unadulterated driving pleasure.
To have first access to Porsche’s exciting announcements, watch the press conference live on Porsche Drive on Wednesday, Nov. 16 at 12:05 p.m. (PST) as we stream from the LA Auto Show.
Nov 8, 2011 8:40:58 AM
....that "unadulterated driving pleasure" made me think again (happens sometimes...).
I guess its the 981 Boxster, with a downsized machine. Makes also sense, since obviously the photoshots for press materials did already happen.
..so still hope, for a Cayenne GTS and a 911 turbo special edition. Since both are only variants, these may not go along as world premieres...
ISUK:
Trust me, it's the 991 cab according to my "source". The timing makes sense as the car is going to be in showrooms in early Spring. The coupe was shown at Frankfurt in September and will be in showrooms 4 months later in December. The cab will be shown at LA and in showrooms within the same sort of timescale
Don't forget the cab's have been spotted driving around California in the various convoys practically undisguised.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
d997h:
...hmm, I am still struggeling with the "unadulterated driving pleasure"...it sounds a bit "James Dean" to me...ok, 8 days to go...
550 then ?
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
RC:
Could be...but I doubt it. The official 991 Coupe presentation takes place in december in Germany and I can't see any logic in showing the Cab to the public before the official launch of the Coupe.
Apparently the Panamera GTS will be shown...it remains to be seen.
The cab and coupe appeal to different customers in the main so anyone wanting a cab will wait for it and showing it at LA won't adversely affect coupe sales. It will however build up a healthy forward order bank for the factory for next Spring for the new drop top
The coupe has already had it's "official launch" at Frankfurt and the December reveal is really the market introduction at dealer level. Following a similar timetable we could expect to see the dealer launch of the cab next March which is just in time for Spring in the northern hempishere. It does look like the new model release programme is being accelerated under VW.
Porsche never introduced another model variant before the initial model variant was introduced at dealer level to customers. It would confuse customers, it would be bad marketing.
As far as I know, the 991 Cab will be announced in Detroit or Geneva.
I could be wrong but the description of the announcement surely indicates something else than "another" 911 variant.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Since we have been speculating about the sub-918 mid-engined Porsche, here is some information from the Autocar magazine
"Porsche may be forced to use the underpinnings of the next-generation Audi R8 for its all-new Ferrari 458 supercar rival — in spite of it being Volkswagen Group’s designated maker of platforms for future sports cars.
Development of this all-new part-carbonfibre architecture is already at an advanced stage and it was previewed on the Audi R8 E-tron concept at the recent Frankfurt motor show. It will underpin the second-gen R8 and Lamborghini Gallardo.
Porsche boss Matthias Müller outlined plans in August for a new supercar to slot between the 911 and 918 Spyder. But in spite of the firm’s desire to develop bespoke underpinnings for its 458 rival, Porsche may be forced to make use of the R8’s foundations. This is because VW considers the next R8 platform a suitable architecture for the Porsche and would save on development costs.
Such is Porsche’s desire to make a bespoke chassis, the firm could even delay its new supercar to coincide with the third generation of R8 and Gallardo in the early 2020s, with the trio using Porsche-developed underpinnings.
The second-gen R8 is also set to use the Audi-Bentley co-developed twin-turbo V8 that has been recently launched in the S8. Autocar understands that the engine can be pushed even further than the 513bhp developed in the S8.
The current R8 is due for a facelift at the Geneva motor show in March. Aside from cosmetic upgrades, the biggest developments will be an increase in power of the base 4.2-litre V8 to 450bhp and the 5.2-litre V10 to 552bhp.
A new dual-clutch seven-speed S-tronic gearbox will replace the current automated six-speeder."
"Form follows function"
Nov 8, 2011 1:13:53 PM
991Cab does not make sense to me, too early and would take some of the spotlight away from the coupe they are just now introducing. Porsche always loved to escalate the introduction of all the models every 6mo and keep them separated, same with the Boxster rumor, though I guess there is a posibility they may have changed tactics all of a sudden.
Also neither the Cab of the Boxster have "impressive performance" compared to the 991 coupe they would will be sitting next to in the stand, so if they use that wording in the same press release and the introduction of the 991CarreraS, it stands to reason that it would have even better performance than a 991carreraS... or be a completely different vehicle class and therefore not comparable, i.e. a special Cayenne sport version.
My guess is still with a sub-918 "concept" car, not yet the real version prototype even but rather testing the waters and creating expectations with a just a concept.
Nov 8, 2011 3:57:19 PM
Ha, this thread is becoming quite entertaining - I can't remember the last time Porsche caused such confusion and conjecture with a press release. Is it the new Boxster, the 550, the 991 Cab, the Panamera GTS, the Cayenne GTS, maybe even the new sub-918 supercar??? Is it a bird, a plane - no, it's SuperPorsche.
I guess this simply shows that no one has the vaguest idea what this is going to be, which is probably excactly what PAG wanted. After all this build-up, let's just hope it's not a big disappointment.
(For what it's worth, my money's still on the Boxster.....or the 550....no, wait, maybe the Cab....).
PureBlue:
I guess this simply shows that no one has the vaguest idea what this is going to be, which is probably excactly what PAG wanted. After all this build-up, let's just hope it's not a big disappointment.
Guess those in the know won´t let the cat out easily. Very curious if Porsche delivers on the marketing front this time...
It just shows that we can expect so many enticing models as we haven´t had the chance to since a long time.
dxpetrov:
I recon the LA show is not big enough to be granted any ''major'' reveal, as new Boxster would be. My guess would be the 991 Cab.
I used to go to that show every year - it's Big. And LA is a huge market for Porsche and other upscale autos.
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs). Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello
Just talked to a "friend". It is not the Cab. The Cab will be announced early next year. This isn't 100% though since this "friend" doesn't work in the marketing department and he refused to give me any hint, so he knows exactly or he doesn't have a clue (which would be odd though).
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4