tvrfan:
hey guys will be there defenetly a 997 Turbo S? and later a 997 GT2 facelift (like on the 996 GT2) ???
my expections are 997 turbo facelift 500 PS. 997 Turbo S 520 PS. 997 GT2 facelift 550 PS.
what do you think?
My current personal opinion is: 997TT FL with 500hp and PDK this fall, maybe deliveries late this year/early 2010. No TTS, no GT2 FL.
The primary reason for my "theory": limited time left until launch of all new 991 in 2011 (latest). A 997TT or TTS with substantially more than 500hp would be close to current GT2 (530hp). A GT2 FL could not be sold long enough to be profitable.
19-mar-2009 15.11.22
Spyderidol:The marginal cost compared to the Turbo is far less than the 50k Euro selling price differential between the two models IMO. It shouls be one of the most profitable models per unit.
tvrfan:
911 GT2 is not sold to be profitable.Are you sure? - this is not very likely under WW
19-mar-2009 16.30.08
tvrfan:
911 GT2 is not sold to be profitable. its a hardcore car to stay with the competition. like carrera GT. not a sellers car. i hope they will build a 997 TT S and 997 GT2 facelift (maybe instead of the facelift a RS version)
You can be sure that everything Porsche does passes the test of profitability...
MKSGR:
tvrfan:
911 GT2 is not sold to be profitable. its a hardcore car to stay with the competition. like carrera GT. not a sellers car. i hope they will build a 997 TT S and 997 GT2 facelift (maybe instead of the facelift a RS version)
You can be sure that everything Porsche does passes the test of profitability...
On a car by car basis - The GT2 is probably THE MOST profitable 911.
It's essentially a Turbo with some tweaks & without the front running gear sold at a huge premium over the Turbo.
But agree it wouldnt sell in the same #'s as the Turbo.
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08 PORSCHE Turbo Cabriolet, 06 Ferrari F430, 04 Durango HEMI, 04 Harley FLHTCSE, 93 Harley FLSTN
20-mar-2009 15.24.32
20-mar-2009 20.46.40
MKSGR:Yes, and in this price class i doubt updating the rear lights and bumpers would affect the profit margin much, over the boosted sales not to mention it separates the 997.1 and 997.2 GT2 making it more valuable...
tvrfan:
911 GT2 is not sold to be profitable. its a hardcore car to stay with the competition. like carrera GT. not a sellers car. i hope they will build a 997 TT S and 997 GT2 facelift (maybe instead of the facelift a RS version)
You can be sure that everything Porsche does passes the test of profitability...
2005 Ford Focus S, 5spd
1986 Porsche 944, 5spd
tvrfan:From what I remember from the time , Herr Wiedeking said that to convert the Geneva 2000 show car to production reality, Porsche needed a minimum of 1,200 sales. Porsche originally planned a production run of 1,500 but ultimately produced 1,270 units.
so was the Carrera GT also profitable? ;)