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Damian said:
Could we expect the same dismissive prejudicial approach of Clarkson!?
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throt said:
I just cant get this image thing out of my head because when someone mentions AM I automatically think ""Sport Coupe"" for the old man ( 50 + ) and the same for the Jag,s , sorry !!..
Jmo..
throt..
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John H said:
Can anyone explain why JC has this dismissive prejuditial attitude to Porsche? I like Clarkson - a lot, I think his contribution to motoring entertainment is immense. But why the downer on any P car.
Perhaps he's been refused a discount - I'd really like to know the reason.
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rich1231 said:
You do realise that Porcas have the same image in the UK, dont you? Combined with the late 80's yuppie tarnish.
At the end of the day, in the Porca vs v8 argument the speed and cost issues should be ignored. Else you would be in something cheaper and faster still.
Jan 29, 2006 6:59:01 PM
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nberry said:
For those of you arguing that the 997S is cheaper think again. While the MSRP for the AMV8 is about $10,000 more it will hold its value substantially better than the S. Once you drive a S off the showroon floor, you immediately have at least a $10,000 loss.The AMV8 has a long waiting list here in the US and will sell above MSRP for quite awhile.
So which one is better priced?
Jan 29, 2006 7:14:42 PM
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nberry said:
For those of you arguing that the 997S is cheaper think again. While the MSRP for the AMV8 is about $10,000 more it will hold its value substantially better than the S. Once you drive a S off the showroon floor, you immediately have at least a $10,000 loss.The AMV8 has a long waiting list here in the US and will sell above MSRP for quite awhile.
So which one is better priced?
Jan 29, 2006 9:35:29 PM
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stanwan said:
Understandably, the AM marque is far mare emotive here in the UK. Porsche has been so busy throwing out umpteen variants of the same car, so much so that on my last drive (in the 996) I could look in any direction and have a porsche of some description in my field of view, Where AM really scores is in it's rarity - oversaturation of the marketplace isn't an issue as of yet. I often get the feeling that Porsche is becoming more common than BMW round here.....
Oh and the neighbour a few doors down has bought his 17 year old son a 997C4S too, I'll try and get a picture of it with its L plates on!!!
Jan 29, 2006 9:52:59 PM
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EnglishManInNY said:
Interesting thread of the performance of the Cayman S versus the AM V8 (admittedly one I created).
http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=186707&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
Not sure I would want to pay $110k knowing I just purchased the performance of a Cayman S...
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stanwan said:
Understandably, the AM marque is far mare emotive here in the UK. Porsche has been so busy throwing out umpteen variants of the same car, so much so that on my last drive (in the 996) I could look in any direction and have a porsche of some description in my field of view, Where AM really scores is in it's rarity - oversaturation of the marketplace isn't an issue as of yet. I often get the feeling that Porsche is becoming more common than BMW round here.....
Oh and the neighbour a few doors down has bought his 17 year old son a 997C4S too, I'll try and get a picture of it with its L plates on!!!
Jan 30, 2006 9:20:19 PM
Jan 30, 2006 9:24:31 PM
Jan 30, 2006 9:27:38 PM
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nberry said:
Damiam, I would be very careful in extrapolating depreciation on V10-12 GT's to V8 sport cars.There is a world of difference in the two markets.
However, we know for certain the 997 will sustain significant depreciation and the reasons are obvious. Too many built, too many look alike models and models that undercut one another. When the 997 TT hits the streets, your S will be worth less. The Cayman according to Autocar circles its GT track faster than the S and on a wet track the AMV8 beats the S. The S is left with little redeeming qualities within the Porsche brand. Thus, the depreciation may reach biblical proportions.
On the other hand, the AMV8 will be a true limited production car with no competing models within AM and has generated considerable interest and excitement among the more sophisticated sport car buyers. Most people will view the car as a STEP UP from a 911. It is prettier, more refined, more elegant and genteel.It will attract the savvy buyer who knows value. Sadly, 911's are a dime a dozen and THE AMV8 a very attractive limted production sport car with GT qualities whick make it a very desirable alternative to the 911.
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nberry said:
Damiam, I would be very careful in extrapolating depreciation on V10-12 GT's to V8 sport cars.There is a world of difference in the two markets.
However, we know for certain the 997 will sustain significant depreciation and the reasons are obvious. Too many built, too many look alike models and models that undercut one another. When the 997 TT hits the streets, your S will be worth less. The Cayman according to Autocar circles its GT track faster than the S and on a wet track the AMV8 beats the S. The S is left with little redeeming qualities within the Porsche brand. Thus, the depreciation may reach biblical proportions.
On the other hand, the AMV8 will be a true limited production car with no competing models within AM and has generated considerable interest and excitement among the more sophisticated sport car buyers. Most people will view the car as a STEP UP from a 911. It is prettier, more refined, more elegant and genteel.It will attract the savvy buyer who knows value. Sadly, 911's are a dime a dozen and THE AMV8 a very attractive limted production sport car with GT qualities whick make it a very desirable alternative to the 911.