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Jan 12, 2006 5:43:42 PM
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Jan 12, 2006 5:49:20 PM
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Re: Panamera Engine?
I think there will be a similar program that Porsche uses with all its line:
1. Entry level (non-turbo V8)
2. S or Turbo version (maybe like Cayenne Turbo or TTS)
3. Highest level (CGT motor or very high output V8TT)
My guess is that the Cayenne Turbo S motor would be better than the CGT's in a heavy sedan. That extra torque would be handy.
1. Entry level (non-turbo V8)
2. S or Turbo version (maybe like Cayenne Turbo or TTS)
3. Highest level (CGT motor or very high output V8TT)
My guess is that the Cayenne Turbo S motor would be better than the CGT's in a heavy sedan. That extra torque would be handy.
Jan 12, 2006 5:51:27 PM
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I have heard from my dealer that the Cayenne V8 turbo S would be the entry engine choice for the new Panamera with the CGT engine as the ultimate!
Greetins to your dealer...C.R.A.P.
Entry level should be a 340+ HP V8 car, even a V6 can't be excluded if demand is high.
There will definetely be a V8 Turbo but I doubt it will have 521 HP like the Cayenne Turbo S. Somewhere around 450 HP is more likely. And the top model could be a V10 based on the Carrera GT engine, could. The top model should be somewhere in the up to 600 HP range. Since I doubt that the Panamera will be heavier than 2 tons, 600 HP would be sufficient for great performance.
But again: entry level is NOT the Turbo but a "simple" V8.
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Since I doubt that the Panamera will be heavier than 2 tons, 600 HP would be sufficient for great performance.
RC - Do you mean 2 US Tons (4,000 lbs) or 2 metric tonnes (4,400 lbs)?
I would guess metric. Since Porsche has no intention of investing in an aluminium space frame/chassis ala Ferrari, Audi, Lambo, it safe to say 4000+lbs. is likely.
Jan 12, 2006 10:05:58 PM
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Since I doubt that the Panamera will be heavier than 2 tons, 600 HP would be sufficient for great performance.
RC - Do you mean 2 US Tons (4,000 lbs) or 2 metric tonnes (4,400 lbs)?
I'm pretty sure he meant metric.
Metric. But guys, don't get me wrong. I just heard that development has set this weight as a "painful" limit for the final weight figure. It maybe be less in the final product, they're still at the beginning. But if you're expecting something in the 997 Turbo weight range, I highly doubt it. Even the BMW M5 weight should be surpassed easily.
Re: Panamera Engine?
I heared about a cooperation with VW and base both new Phateon and Panamera on the same chassis, just like they did with the Tourge\Cayenne..
And since VW and Audi are one company, and audi got the technology for Aluminium frame & chassis you shouldn't be so sure...
And since VW and Audi are one company, and audi got the technology for Aluminium frame & chassis you shouldn't be so sure...
Jan 13, 2006 2:47:14 PM
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Greetins to your dealer...C.R.A.P.
Entry level should be a 340+ HP V8 car, even a V6 can't be excluded if demand is high.
There will definetely be a V8 Turbo but I doubt it will have 521 HP like the Cayenne Turbo S. Somewhere around 450 HP is more likely. And the top model could be a V10 based on the Carrera GT engine, could. The top model should be somewhere in the up to 600 HP range. Since I doubt that the Panamera will be heavier than 2 tons, 600 HP would be sufficient for great performance.
But again: entry level is NOT the Turbo but a "simple" V8.
You are right
...who was my dealer kidding? 
Who else can be more accurate than info from Rennteam. 
Stay tuned guys
Jan 13, 2006 2:49:47 PM
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Jan 14, 2006 6:59:56 PM
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Re: Panamera Engine?
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My guess is that the Cayenne Turbo S motor would be better than the CGT's in a heavy sedan. That extra torque would be handy.
Agree with you on the torque
I'm still hoping for an AWD version with the CGT V10-and with VTG's.
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Grant said:
My guess is that the Cayenne Turbo S motor would be better than the CGT's in a heavy sedan. That extra torque would be handy.
Agree with you on the torque
I'm still hoping for an AWD version with the CGT V10-and with VTG's.
Well, that's an ambitious wish. If Bentley can do an AWD W12TT, Porsche should be able to do a V10TT - hopefully with alot less weight and lower price...
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