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Al Pettee said:No detached advocate of free trade amongst nations would endorse such a treaty.
A little below the belt perhaps, considering that the EU probably isn't exactly saintly either!
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Latest thoughts are that the strength (not frequency) of hurricanes has been increasing, due to picking more energy off the hotter ocean. Katrina anyone?
This is an interest (amateur) of mine (I am not a meteorologist by training, I'm just a physician), and, yes, anthropogenic-global warming (AGW) advocates cite Katrina as evidence of that phenomenon. But Katrina is not the most powerful Atlantic Basin hurricane on record to hit the US-the great Labor Day (September) storm of 1935 with a central pressure of 892mB was (Katrina got down to 902, I believe). The explanation for the recent spate of big storms I find cogent is the well-known cyclical Atlantic Ocean thermal oscillation (we are now supposedly in positive thermal flux-the surface water temp. fluctuates in a 20-30 year cycle, it was relatively cooler in the 1940's-50's, was warmer in the 20's-30's, and is warmer again in the 90's-00's). The debate is whether global warming is aggravating this cycle (making it warmer now more than expected). AGW advocates say yes. I'll leave it at that.
BTW, my view is that whether or not AGW (not in an isolated and minor manner but in a dramatic and cataclysmic manner) exists, the primary force for replacing burning of fossil fuels (FF) with alternative technologies will not be political means, but the market (when the price of a barrel of oil is consistently > $100, this will encourage the more expensive non-FF technologies to develop competitively). Eventually, our Porsche's will be fueled by an as of yet undeveloped energy source.
Sep 20, 2005 1:30:11 PM
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wtsnet said:Quote:They seem to be more frequent too Doc. Any ideas on why?
Latest thoughts are that the strength (not frequency) of hurricanes has been increasing, due to picking more energy off the hotter ocean. Katrina anyone?
BTW, my view is that whether or not AGW (not in an isolated and minor manner but in a dramatic and cataclysmic manner) exists, the primary force for replacing burning of fossil fuels (FF) with alternative technologies will not be political means, but the market (when the price of a barrel of oil is consistently > $100, this will encourage the more expensive non-FF technologies to develop competitively). Right on! Right on! Right on!
Sep 20, 2005 5:16:03 PM
), but otherwise not more so vs. the last 150 years over the last 20-30 years here in the Atlantic. There is evidence for greater activity in the other oceans in the last 35 years, the question is whether this is related to CO2 emissions and sea surface warming or other phenomena out of human control. Any other meteorology buffs with comments?
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Thank you Al!
Correct me if I'm wrong- but the mid to late 19th century were among the most active decades...oh that figures, Lincoln was President (another Republican) during part of that time.
Didn't Al Gore give a speech on global warming a few years ago during one of the coldest days in decades.
). Of course, the way I drive my TT, the horrendous fuel economy that I average when mashing the throttle probably mitigates that effect. 
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IMHO, anything that can make our President look bad and or make the liberals look good.
