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    Cayenne V6

    I won't speculate on the launch time schedule of the V6 but Porsche needs this Cayenne model for one simple reason:
    to increase sales numbers and therefore reduce production cost further.

    Personally I think that a Cayenne V6 is even more worse than a Cayenne Diesel.
    A high power Cayenne Diesel with let's say the same power figure as on the V8 would increase Cayenne sales substantially, especially in Europe.

    Porsche actually made a mistake in Cayenne marketing:
    instead of trying to promote the Cayenne as an independent product, they tried to make the Cayenne look like an off-road 911. I'm not sure this was a clever idea because by now every owner should have learned that the Cayenne is a great SUV, especially the Turbo but there is no similarity to the 911.

    And regarding the US and especially Texas: I also think that the Cayenne isn't large enough. Owning a ML 55 AMG for more than two years now and expecting our second child, the ML definetely is too small for our little family.
    A larger Cayenne would be nice but I'm afraid this would increase weight further.

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    I agree RC,
    According to GS, the V6 will be VW sourced anyway, so instead of buying their V6, why not buy their V10 diesel instead, it is a hell of an engine for a diesel, it has 310HP that Porsche engineers can surely push to 339hp (to stay politically correct, it has to be 1hp less then CayenneS right ) and THAT, as you said, would be their most successful model in Europe.
    Gas is not a problem in the US, is it less than a quarter of the price compared to Europe!
    Although I agree with GS' analysts as well, the most sold european SUVs in the States are the V6 version. But then again, all the american ones are V8 and they are the same price as the Europeans V6!
    Americans are not foolish, for the same price, they go for the V8, plus they get to buy american product, ok, not quite european standard, but how many of them care? You just have to look at the proportion of american SUVs, compared to european SUVs on the roads.
    But Americans have already a enormous array of choice for SUVs/Trucks and some of them are brilliant, it is a very highly competitive market, the SUV most driven by family mums is the GMC Suburban, now, for those who don't know that car, you should see it, Ron's ML looks like a mini next to it (Sorry Ron!) and it has about enough seats to fit the kids, the dogs, the cousins, the inlaws, and their luggages!
    Fanch.

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    my recommendation is: porsche should can the cayenne! sell the body parts to VW and it might have a bright future as the range-topping "VW touareg R model - designed by porsche"... which it is anyway

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    I see what you mean Zz,
    A bit like the Audi RS2 in the early 90s, every owner knew it was designed by Porsche.
    But it's too late for that now.
    I think it'll work out in the end for Porsche, they are just getting into troubled waters for now, but I reckon they know what they are doing. ( I hope)
    I wonder if they had planned the V6 version right from the start or if it's a decision they took recently due to poor sales?
    Fanch.

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    Well fanch, the ML is gone. We decided to get a Suburban last Friday .

    You'll get to try it in Sep.


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    wow ron, that is the biggest car i've ever seen!!!

    what brand is it?
    is it really yours? if yes, congrats!!

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    Hey man!!!
    Congrats!!!
    Your wife must be so happy! You already talked about changing cars last week, you're quick mate.
    what's the name of that chinese restaurant you took me to?
    One advice guys if you ever go to Houston and are invited by Ron, it doesn't matter how long the flight was (mine was 11) nor how tired you are, and most of all, how hungry or thirsty you are, he will put a cold beer in you hand, give you a second one before you have time to finish the 1st and stuff you with two pizzas!!! Thanks again mate!
    Back to the Suburban, I think it is the perfect choice, just the minimum size SUV for Texas!
    V8 I presume. how many HP? not that it matters on straight roads limited at 65mph
    Fanch.

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    Zzoba my friend,
    You need to go to Texas, just like you, I thought, the X5, ML, Cayenne, etc. were pretty big cars, but I went to Houston and saw the light
    The Suburban is I would say, an avarage sized SUV over there, you should the H2 and the Cadillac Escapade!
    The Cayenne has NO chance!
    Fanch.

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    Bad news!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    I heard the V6 is going to look very much like a Turbo only the front end will look differed with other air-intakes
    The price for the V6 will be more them half the price of the Turbo and look almost the same.
    I think Porsche has to explane a lot to the Cayenne Turbo buyers !!!!!!!!


    We own a Cayenne S and can not imagine a Cayenne V6 and +/- 240 HP , the drive will have nothing to do with Porsche and the so called Porsche heritage web page

    Question to the other forum-members
    Will the Cayenne V6 be good or bad for the Cayenne S and Turbo resell value ???

    Looks like RC was right from the beginning

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    Quote:
    I wonder if they had planned the V6 version right from the start or if it's a decision they took recently due to poor sales?
    Fanch.



    The V6 was planned from the start, we accidentally got a small part of the specs together with the V8/Turbo specs last year.
    I'm also pretty sure that the Cayenne Diesel is ready to roll but Porsche uses the same strategy as with the Boxster S when they delayed it's official start by a year, despite the fact that it was ready to roll.

    If Porsche wants to surprise me, I need the following Cayenne:
    * below 2000 kg
    * power between 340 and 500 HP
    * same price tag but fully loaded with all options
    * different design, more SUV like and more fresh

    I don't think that the trouble for Cayenne sales will come from US SUVs but from the all new BMW X5 and all new Mercedes M-class, both due around 2004/2005.

    And I wish to say something for current Cayenne owners: despite our "bla bla", I still consider the Cayenne a very nice SUV, no doubt about it. Please do not feel offended by our talk but we only try to express our feelings and opinions.
    As you can see: nobody said that the Cayenne is a bad SUV.

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    Quote:
    Well fanch, the ML is gone. We decided to get a Suburban last Friday .

    You'll get to try it in Sep.





    May I add my part...Lincoln Navigator.
    Our little girl loves it too.

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    Cute daughter RC.

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    Quote:
    Cute daughter RC.



    Thanks.
    She loves all kind of cars, my wife is already worried that she becomes the same car nut as her father.
    I had to laugh when my wife told me a few weeks ago with a serious tone in her voice: "I hope you don't buy her a Porsche at age 18". She was dead serious about it and sometimes I'm afraid my wife thinks that I'm not only a car nut but a car maniac.

    Right now we're fighting about an electric car I want to buy for my little one. It is a cheap electric off-roader for the garden but my wife wants her to ride her tricycle.
    Well, as you see we have real problems in our family.

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    so at least you can be sure it's REALLY your daughter
    (indeed very cute BTW)

    my friend's son (3 yrs) is holding his ears and starting to cry when my friend is starting his 360 spider with fuchs exhaust. so he is really worried about paternity...


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    Hello to all i wanted to know greater information on porsche cayenne the 3.2 v6. This motor will come put in sale also in italy?

    thanks

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    In Antwort auf:
    so at least you can be sure it's REALLY your daughter
    (indeed very cute BTW)

    my friend's son (3 yrs) is holding his ears and starting to cry when my friend is starting his 360 spider with fuchs exhaust. so he is really worried about paternity...







    my dad needn't worry too much - although he's owning 5 Porsche and i got only one...

     
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