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Jun 13, 2005 11:26:10 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005

Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Thank you very much for all your advice on the specs

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I have ordered the car this morning

. Here are the complete specs ( which, of course, can be modifieds during my long waiting time

)

Carrera C4S
Seal grey
Full black leather inside ( I still would consider a clear colors)
342 Heated seats
454 Cruise control ( tempomat)
460 Sport steering wheel... I hope it' s the thick one
482 Tyre monitoring system ( Carlos

....I checked it out, prices for winter wheels are a bit more expensive because of the system)
498 No logo
567 Tinted stripe on the top of front window
640 Sport Chrono Plus
666 GSM for PCM
670 Navigation
680 Bose surround
692 CD charger
( If the Ipod is comming..the dealer said they are working on it and it could be here by the end of summer...only rumours.. I would drop the CD changer)
P12 Self diming miror + rain detector
P17 Sports chassis ( -20mm)

P77 Sport seats ( but not adaptive)
XCZ Short shift
XLF Sport exaust

XRP Pacers 5mm

XSC Porsche logo on the seats

( I droped the sunroof and the Park assist...but I still have a hesitation on getting Park assist or not.)

Know I just have to wait....

....a long time

If you think I have missed something important...please let me know your thaughts

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Jun 13, 2005 11:40:13 AM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: Gnil

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Congrats gnil , its well loaded up...

throt.

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Jun 13, 2005 12:36:54 PM

Alex18_996CC: Rennteam Master; Loc: Madrid , Spain; Posts: 3218, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 13, 2004; Reply to: throt

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Congrats Gnil

....

The car is fully loaded

I would go for the parkassistant, is helpful and its price isn't that high

BTW:What's option: pacers 5mm ???????

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Jun 13, 2005 12:45:53 PM

gian61: Co-Pilot; Loc: Pavia , Italy; Posts: 189, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 23, 2005; Reply to: Alex18_996CC

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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460 Sport steering wheel... I hope it' s the thick one

No,460 is sport steering wheel in smooth leather,

the "thick one" is option code XPA

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Jun 13, 2005 1:11:45 PM

FARGO: Co-Pilot; Loc: crazyland (B); Posts: 266, Gallery; Registered on: May 25, 2005; Reply to: gian61

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

i like the adaptive sportseats, very nice in corners.

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Jun 13, 2005 1:35:10 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: FARGO

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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FARGO said:
i like the adaptive sportseats, very nice in corners.

Awesome English FARGO..

throt.

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Jun 13, 2005 1:42:04 PM

FARGO: Co-Pilot; Loc: crazyland (B); Posts: 266, Gallery; Registered on: May 25, 2005; Reply to: throt

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

here in belgium we have 3 languages
dutch (flemisch)
french
and a little bit german
at school we do englisch

so, i try to explain ....
i do my best , thx for the compliment

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Jun 13, 2005 1:53:18 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: Gnil

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Nice color combo.

gian61 is right, the Thicker steering wheel is "XPA". I'm very happy with it. It could be even thicker for my tastes. Definately a solid feel. The "smooth leather" sports steering wheel is something like $400 so upgrading to the XPA with the "smooth leather" and thicker wheel is a great choice. The airbag cover is also leather on the XPA. (I'm not certain if the standard sports steering wheel has a leather airbag cover.)

I WOULDN'T delete the logo.

With -20mm suspension you should definately go with the adaptive sport seats. The sport seats are really nice but the way the airbags inflate the side and bottom bolsters with the touch of a button making them tight like racing seats I think go hand and hand with the more aggressive suspension and the g's you'll be pulling

You'll also love the Sport Exhaust.

The way you are building the car it sounds very PERFORMANCE DRIVEN. The last thing I would do on a DRIVERS car w/ out a sunroof, With -20mm, PSE,Sport Seats, short shift etc. is put "park assist"......park assist would kill the whole theme of your build imo. Anyone that has enough ability to take advantage of the -20mm and short shift etc. really shouldn't need an electronic device to help them park a car the size of the 997. Good choice to leave it off.

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Jun 13, 2005 2:38:36 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: Alex18_996CC

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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Alex18_996CC said:

BTW:What's option: pacers 5mm ???????

Sorry, made a spelling mistake , it's not pacers its : spacers ( goes between the rim and the axel so the wheels are pushed a bit more to the outside....just for the look

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Jun 13, 2005 2:40:16 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: gian61

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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gian61 said:

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460 Sport steering wheel... I hope it' s the thick one

No,460 is sport steering wheel in smooth leather,

the "thick one" is option code XPA

Thanks Gian ...will have to correct that

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Jun 13, 2005 2:43:53 PM

Dilinger: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Athens,Greece , Greece; Posts: 2034, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 23, 2004; Reply to: Gnil

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

awesome car gnil!!!! really stunning fully loaded

Are you sure about the spacers though?

if they offer no performance upgrade.....

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Jun 13, 2005 2:55:11 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: FARGO

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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FARGO said:
i like the adaptive sportseats, very nice in corners.

I am sure they are.....but they are 3 times the price of the simple sport seats , so...I thaught it's not worth it, but will see.

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Jun 13, 2005 2:59:53 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: Dilinger

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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Dilinger said:
awesome car gnil!!!! really stunning fully loaded

Are you sure about the spacers though?

if they offer no performance upgrade.....

Just for the look Dilinger..

just for the look

I do have some wain( ?) ( sorry about spelling) tastes sometimes... I guess I am not perfect yet, will have to meditate a bit more...

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Jun 13, 2005 3:10:37 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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STRADALE said:
Nice color combo.

gian61 is right, the Thicker steering wheel is "XPA". I'm very happy with it. It could be even thicker for my tastes. Definately a solid feel. The "smooth leather" sports steering wheel is something like $400 so upgrading to the XPA with the "smooth leather" and thicker wheel is a great choice. The airbag cover is also leather on the XPA. (I'm not certain if the standard sports steering wheel has a leather airbag cover.)

I WOULDN'T delete the logo.

With -20mm suspension you should definately go with the adaptive sport seats. The sport seats are really nice but the way the airbags inflate the side and bottom bolsters with the touch of a button making them tight like racing seats I think go hand and hand with the more aggressive suspension and the g's you'll be pulling

You'll also love the Sport Exhaust.

The way you are building the car it sounds very PERFORMANCE DRIVEN. The last thing I would do on a DRIVERS car w/ out a sunroof, With -20mm, PSE,Sport Seats, short shift etc. is put "park assist"......park assist would kill the whole theme of your build imo. Anyone that has enough ability to take advantage of the -20mm and short shift etc. really shouldn't need an electronic device to help them park a car the size of the 997. Good choice to leave it off.

Stradale.... I am sure you are right with the adaptive seats, but is the difference of price worth it? I am trying to be 'a little bit' reasonable..

And you are right with the Park assist...I do not need it at all ( as I have taught about it I must be getting old....wanting sedan confort in a sports car..

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I will delete the logo! I do not like writings on the back of my cars.... There has been a long thread on that subject a few weeks ago....I do like the clean 'empty' look .One knows that it is a Carrera... and then one doesn' t have to know it' s a 4S ( if he/she is a 'connaisseur' they will know)
Thanks for your input

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Jun 13, 2005 4:31:12 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: Gnil

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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gnil said:
Quote:
STRADALE said:
Nice color combo.

gian61 is right, the Thicker steering wheel is "XPA". I'm very happy with it. It could be even thicker for my tastes. Definately a solid feel. The "smooth leather" sports steering wheel is something like $400 so upgrading to the XPA with the "smooth leather" and thicker wheel is a great choice. The airbag cover is also leather on the XPA. (I'm not certain if the standard sports steering wheel has a leather airbag cover.)

I WOULDN'T delete the logo.

With -20mm suspension you should definately go with the adaptive sport seats. The sport seats are really nice but the way the airbags inflate the side and bottom bolsters with the touch of a button making them tight like racing seats I think go hand and hand with the more aggressive suspension and the g's you'll be pulling

You'll also love the Sport Exhaust.

The way you are building the car it sounds very PERFORMANCE DRIVEN. The last thing I would do on a DRIVERS car w/ out a sunroof, With -20mm, PSE,Sport Seats, short shift etc. is put "park assist"......park assist would kill the whole theme of your build imo. Anyone that has enough ability to take advantage of the -20mm and short shift etc. really shouldn't need an electronic device to help them park a car the size of the 997. Good choice to leave it off.

Stradale.... I am sure you are right with the adaptive seats, but is the difference of price worth it? I am trying to be 'a little bit' reasonable..
And you are right with the Park assist...I do not need it at all ( as I have taught about it I must be getting old....wanting sedan confort in a sports car.. )
I will delete the logo! I do not like writings on the back of my cars.... There has been a long thread on that subject a few weeks ago....I do like the clean 'empty' look .One knows that it is a Carrera... and then one doesn' t have to know it' s a 4S ( if he/she is a 'connaisseur' they will know)
Thanks for your input

You ordered the full leather. Did you know that you get a $500 discount on the adaptive sport seats if you order the full leather ?

Are the Adaptive sport seats worth the money ? Honestly I forgot how much they are compared to the regular sport seats but I love them. I like the adjustable bolsters (especially for agressive driving) but the lumbar is worth whatever it costs. The weekend before last I took a two 4 hour drives on back to back days and the lumbar was so nice. I'm not sure if the regular sport seats have lumbar.

The logo is just a personal preference. For Hot-Rods or resto-mods I really like the clean/ no logo look but for high end German or Italian sports cars I don't like the modification to the rear. But I know what you're saying.

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Jun 13, 2005 4:36:08 PM

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Switzerland; Posts: 7062, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 17, 2005; Reply to: STRADALE

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Awesome Car!!! Congratulations!!
How long's the wait??

Anybody here had any experience with those spacers? Does it affect the handling? (Pro/Con)

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Jun 13, 2005 4:40:47 PM

Mike S: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Somewhere , Taiwan; Posts: 7720, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2005; Reply to: Porker

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beltar has spacers on his car, lets wait and see what he says

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Jun 13, 2005 5:25:46 PM

grecomfs: Junior; Loc:; Posts: 57, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 9, 2002; Reply to: Porker

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

I've had 5mm spacers on 996 C4 and 996 TT. No really obvious handling differences but a surprisingly good visual. 5mm at the hub produces a stance difference equal to going, for example, from a 295 tire to a 305.

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Jun 13, 2005 5:52:55 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: grecomfs

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

gnil, very nice spec indeed!

all the sports options are a must in my opinion. especially PSE and -20mm which transforms the car into a real litte animal

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Jun 13, 2005 6:00:49 PM

tooner: Veteran; Loc: SF-Bay Area; Posts: 832, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 8, 2005; Reply to: Gnil

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Impressive car Gnil...Congrats

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Jun 13, 2005 7:20:56 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Gnil

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Congrats Gnil!

Great that you could get the tire pressure monitoring system, you will be so gald you were able to, and I'm not sure retrofit is porsible.

I would definately not get the spacers. You are getting the -20mm! and other sport extras, and with the spacers you are changing that car's track. That will not have a positive inpact on the car's handling, its pure phisics, there is no point IMO. If you are going -20mm you might as well avoid spacers and such stuff. But thats personal.

Also Park assist is less noticiable in the 997 than in the 996, but still obvious and doesn't look very sporty. So unless you have problems parking, I would not get it.

I's a wonderfully spec'd car and you will love it... now the wait!

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Jun 13, 2005 8:14:19 PM

FARGO: Co-Pilot; Loc: crazyland (B); Posts: 266, Gallery; Registered on: May 25, 2005; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

4 me , 2 days and i take my car out of that
showroom... i can't wait no longer.
pictures will follow soon,

good night, it is 22.15,
watching tv in bed and sweet dreams...

(yihaaaaaaa)

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Jun 13, 2005 8:53:55 PM

ArthurY: Co-Pilot; Loc: Los Angeles, CA; Posts: 153, Gallery; Registered on: May 26, 2004; Reply to: Gnil

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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gnil said:

I have ordered the car this morning

When did your dealer say you can expect delivery?
Have you been quoted specific 2006 prices?

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Jun 13, 2005 10:57:48 PM

beltar: Veteran; Loc: belgium , Belgium; Posts: 1232, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: Mike S

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

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Mike S said:
beltar has spacers on his car, lets wait and see what he says

Mine are 1cm aswell in the front as the back, the car looks a lot better...
The handling: I don't feel any differences, but have to say that i couldn't test the car flatout without the spacers, because they were already installed during brake-in period...
A racedriver could probably feel the differences while cornering, but altough I push rather hard (much tooooooo fast according to lady beltar) I don't have any complaints concerning the handling...

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Jun 13, 2005 11:34:50 PM

Rami: Senior; Loc: Belgium; Posts: 760, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 6, 2005; Reply to: beltar

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Awesome car and specs Gnil! Congrats

498 No logo is not my choice either but it's just like Stradale says very personal indeed.

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Jun 14, 2005 8:26:50 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: ArthurY

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ArthurY said:
Quote:
gnil said:

I have ordered the car this morning

When did your dealer say you can expect delivery?
Have you been quoted specific 2006 prices?

I have been quoted 2006 model prices ( which start now I think)
As for when I will be getting it......???? At the end of the year or beginning of next. No fixed date yet!
Their are many fights.... firt between the two salespersons at the garage who each are trying to push their own custumors in front...the director comming in with his friends... and every other custommer pushing to be first....
We will see. I am supposed to be one of the first one to get the C4S....

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Jun 14, 2005 8:27:58 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: beltar

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Quote:
beltar said:
Quote:
Mike S said:
beltar has spacers on his car, lets wait and see what he says

Mine are 1cm aswell in the front as the back, the car looks a lot better...
The handling: I don't feel any differences, but have to say that i couldn't test the car flatout without the spacers, because they were already installed during brake-in period...
A racedriver could probably feel the differences while cornering, but altough I push rather hard (much tooooooo fast according to lady beltar) I don't have any complaints concerning the handling...

Is your car a -20mm?

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Jun 14, 2005 8:29:13 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14173, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: beltar

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Quote:
beltar said:
Quote:
Mike S said:
beltar has spacers on his car, lets wait and see what he says

Mine are 1cm aswell in the front as the back, the car looks a lot better...
The handling: I don't feel any differences, but have to say that i couldn't test the car flatout without the spacers, because they were already installed during brake-in period...
A racedriver could probably feel the differences while cornering, but altough I push rather hard (much tooooooo fast according to lady beltar) I don't have any complaints concerning the handling...

I guess not... Just remembered you have a cab!

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Jun 14, 2005 3:00:14 PM

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Switzerland; Posts: 7062, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 17, 2005; Reply to: Gnil

Re: Ordered my 997 C4S this morning

Is the result of spacers a more understeering balance?

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