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everybody in this forum tell that this car is comparable to the nsx...what about comparing it to the 300hp nissan350Z which is still half the price AND fully loaded! LSD XENON ELECTRIC SEATS....porsche what are you thinking?
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Desmo said:
everybody in this forum tell that this car is comparable to the nsx...what about comparing it to the 300hp nissan350Z which is still half the price AND fully loaded! LSD XENON ELECTRIC SEATS....porsche what are you thinking?
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Desmo said:
everybody in this forum tell that this car is comparable to the nsx...what about comparing it to the 300hp nissan350Z which is still half the price AND fully loaded! LSD XENON ELECTRIC SEATS....porsche what are you thinking?
Do you own a CGT and Stradale, as it says in your profile? Thought you'd be less concerned about the money!
The Boxster S has a superior setup the the 350Z out of the box, much better interior, makes better sounds, etc. Drove the Nissan out of curiosity and while it's pretty capable for the price, I just didn't enjoy it. That can't be said of my Boxster experience (even standard Boxster, non-S). If you are after performance numbers, you can't get well similarly performing cars for far less than $200k for the Stradale and track cars costing far less than the CGT. There must be some other criteria that makes them worth the purchase. Similar story on the 350Z vs Boxster/Cayman.
Completely different market IMO. Very people consider both cars.
We all work hard for our money, but it's better to spend a little extra to get what you really want than be unhappy with something less. If a 350Z does it for you, then congratulations....you just saved a ton of money.
Don't mean to offend, that's just how I view it.
- J
PS: My Merc has Brembo brakes, but that doesn't mean they don't fade like hell when driven hard.
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I NEVER said that Porsche wants to test people's reaction to a possible 911 successor, I said that Porsche doesn't seem to like it that the 911 is viewed as THE Porsche and they want something to challenge the reputation and tradition of the 911.
People got the lightweight mid engined car they expected? The Boxster is much lighter, so please enlighten me. The performance difference between the Boxster S and the Cayman S is ridiculous, the advantage on the track comes mainly from a stiffer chassis. And it is funny when I hear people talking about the Boxster and the 911 on the track. I don't know many people who can be REALLY fast in a Boxster on the track, simply because the mid engine setup requires very good driving skills. It is easier to be fast in the 911.
So it doesn't help people much if Walter Röhrl is a few seconds faster in the Cayman S compared to the same Walter Röhrl in a 997 Carrera because simply said: nobody can really drive a Cayman the way he does, he helped develop this thing.
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...but a Boxster with a fixed roof, a nice rear hatch and a slightly "better" engine. What is wrong with that?
that the fixed roof is way too bulky and that the grilled air inlets and the fog lights make it look aftermarket.
time for a corrective action in photoshop:
Jun 14, 2005 11:45:09 AM
Jun 15, 2005 10:48:25 AM
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It seems to me that Porsche is just trying to broaden their market in sales, hence the Cayenne in order to keep up with the SUV market, and the boxster, plus the now Cayman to provide a more affordable Porsche to the population. I don't know why, but when I see the pictures of the Cayman, it reminds of what a wealthy/spoiled college kid might drive... I could be wrong with my visual of this, as many times it is hard to get a total opinion from a picture, and without actually driving it.
In regard to replacing the 911? The 911 is a classic, will always be a classic, and in my opinion can never be replaced. Even if they stopped making the 911 altogether, the 911 still hold it's own. The Cayman is just a new model of the Porsche line...
Jun 15, 2005 11:38:47 AM
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It seems to me that Porsche is just trying to broaden their market in sales, hence the Cayenne in order to keep up with the SUV market, and the boxster, plus the now Cayman to provide a more affordable Porsche to the population. I don't know why, but when I see the pictures of the Cayman, it reminds of what a wealthy/spoiled college kid might drive... I could be wrong with my visual of this, as many times it is hard to get a total opinion from a picture, and without actually driving it.
In regard to replacing the 911? The 911 is a classic, will always be a classic, and in my opinion can never be replaced. Even if they stopped making the 911 altogether, the 911 still hold it's own. The Cayman is just a new model of the Porsche line...
But in the end a Cayman S laps the ring faster than a 997(Im not surprised). I think its more than a rich college kid car. I think this car has to be driven before it's judged. I know I will be testing one out... The 911 prestige doesn't apply to me and yes I own one. I like GOOD performing cars. Specifically Porsches
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DRA said: It could be the beginning of the end for the 911. I know there are going to be lots of people disagreeing with me, but I think Porsche are testing the waters...
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Jenna said: I could be wrong with my visual of this, as many times it is hard to get a total opinion from a picture, and without actually driving it.
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It seems to me that Porsche is just trying to broaden their market in sales, hence the Cayenne in order to keep up with the SUV market, and the boxster, plus the now Cayman to provide a more affordable Porsche to the population. I don't know why, but when I see the pictures of the Cayman, it reminds of what a wealthy/spoiled college kid might drive... I could be wrong with my visual of this, as many times it is hard to get a total opinion from a picture, and without actually driving it.
In regard to replacing the 911? The 911 is a classic, will always be a classic, and in my opinion can never be replaced. Even if they stopped making the 911 altogether, the 911 still hold it's own. The Cayman is just a new model of the Porsche line...
But in the end a Cayman S laps the ring faster than a 997(Im not surprised). I think its more than a rich college kid car. I think this car has to be driven before it's judged. I know I will be testing one out... The 911 prestige doesn't apply to me and yes I own one. I like GOOD performing cars. Specifically Porsches
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