The fact that Porsche is developing a DSG type transmission speaks volumes as to what they think of the Tip.I am a hugh fan of the F1 type tranny and order my Ferrari's with F1. My Cayenne Tip sucks and would never order a car with it. I cannot speak to the updated version of the Tip in the 997 but it can't be all that great if Porsche is going to dump it in the near future.