CloseWhoopsy:pmarkow:Whoopsy:That 'feel good' car would be the RS.
Getting into a TdF would only makes me embarrassed to show up somewhere in a badly modified Masory kitted Ferrari.
driving-wise for sure. but not so much the looks:::))) and a ferrari is a ferrari is a ferrari:::))))
That's true. But please don't remind me of my injured Ferrari
Well, look on the bright side, at least it wasn't the 918.
I think those pictures tell one thing more than anything else: vehicle power now far outweighs driver competence. 600-700HP in a road legal sports car. A professional race car driver would be happy if he gets to drive a car anywhere close to that. Yet any moron can buy a high powered sports car, floor the throttle and wreck it in 5 seconds 
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bluelines:I think those pictures tell one thing more than anything else: vehicle power now far outweighs driver competence. 600-700HP in a road legal sports car. A professional race car driver would be happy if he gets to drive a car anywhere close to that. Yet any moron can buy a high powered sports car, floor the throttle and wreck it in 5 seconds
Sad but true. What I am often surprised of: Many of the drivers I know are just not scared of their cars. 
Maybe I got too old... 
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pmarkow:Whoopsy:That 'feel good' car would be the RS.
Getting into a TdF would only makes me embarrassed to show up somewhere in a badly modified Masory kitted Ferrari.
by the same token you could see the GT3(RS) as a ghetto-style pimped carrera.
Well no, RS basically looks exactly like Porsche's race cars.
The TdF has nothing in common with any of Ferrari's race cars.
I still prefer the F12 looks over TDF but this car is indeed a beast, you could never see Chris talking with such passion about a Lambo or Porsche, actually on his 991,2 Turbo S review he was more worried on taking a coffee than driving the car.
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Whoopsy:pmarkow:Whoopsy:That 'feel good' car would be the RS.
Getting into a TdF would only makes me embarrassed to show up somewhere in a badly modified Masory kitted Ferrari.
by the same token you could see the GT3(RS) as a ghetto-style pimped carrera.
Well no, RS basically looks exactly like Porsche's race cars.
The TdF has nothing in common with any of Ferrari's race cars.
And what about the giant aeroplane wing at the back? Glass houses come to mind
crayphile:Whoopsy:pmarkow:Whoopsy:That 'feel good' car would be the RS.
Getting into a TdF would only makes me embarrassed to show up somewhere in a badly modified Masory kitted Ferrari.
by the same token you could see the GT3(RS) as a ghetto-style pimped carrera.
Well no, RS basically looks exactly like Porsche's race cars.
The TdF has nothing in common with any of Ferrari's race cars.
And what about the giant aeroplane wing at the back? Glass houses come to mind
Glass houses feature giant aeroplane wings? 
We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
RC:bluelines:I think those pictures tell one thing more than anything else: vehicle power now far outweighs driver competence. 600-700HP in a road legal sports car. A professional race car driver would be happy if he gets to drive a car anywhere close to that. Yet any moron can buy a high powered sports car, floor the throttle and wreck it in 5 seconds
Sad but true. What I am often surprised of: Many of the drivers I know are just not scared of their cars.
Maybe I got too old...
I would not be surprised if the EU came up with some legislation on who can drive high powered cars, similar to what we already have on motobikes
crayphile:Whoopsy:pmarkow:Whoopsy:That 'feel good' car would be the RS.
Getting into a TdF would only makes me embarrassed to show up somewhere in a badly modified Masory kitted Ferrari.
by the same token you could see the GT3(RS) as a ghetto-style pimped carrera.
Well no, RS basically looks exactly like Porsche's race cars.
The TdF has nothing in common with any of Ferrari's race cars.
And what about the giant aeroplane wing at the back? Glass houses come to mind
Cup cars, GT3R and the GT3RSR all have even bigger wings. For all intends and purposes, the GT3RS is the baby brother of the 3 race cars.
I certainly have a lot of 'respect' for the power these cars have...and always remind myself that electronic gizmos and fat sticky tires cannot defy the laws of physics.
noone1:LOL. Who the fuck would want a giant white circle on the side of their car?
I guess the customer can choose a number of his choice for that circle?
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Grigio Titanio Ferrari F12tdf for Sale at $1,058,300
koko:Grigio Titanio Ferrari F12tdf for Sale at $1,058,300
Yikes ! Remind me, what was the msrp for the TdF?
Crazy prices. An Enzo was $650K USD when it debuted, and people are asking north of $1M for a special edition F12.
I'd rather put that $1M toward a Maserati MC12 or something more significant than a glorified F12. No doubt it's a sweet car, but it's still an F12 at the end of the day.
noone1:Crazy prices. An Enzo was $650K USD when it debuted, and people are asking north of $1M for a special edition F12.
I'd rather put that $1M toward a Maserati MC12 or something more significant than a glorified F12. No doubt it's a sweet car, but it's still an F12 at the end of the day.
Gotta agree with this. There are other cars out there that are more significant at the end of the day than a souped up F12. That premium is insane over the original price, IMO the first guy saw there weren't any on the market and took a gamble and set the pricing at 1M, the second guy just wants to ride the high created by the first and boom, an insane price bubble is created.
spudgun:Never going to sell for that price. These tactics are just used to boost views and it works like a charm: we all clicked on the link, maybe some of us even clicked on some other inventory of theirs.
Even though, it won't be sold for less than double MSRP which is still ridiculous.
I assume the F12 keeps the n/a 12 cyl. or is Ferrari going to add a second engine version with a Biturbo V8?
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RC:I assume the F12 keeps the n/a 12 cyl. or is Ferrari going to add a second engine version with a Biturbo V8?
It is definitely keeping the V12 and power will be upped over the F12 berlinetta. 4 wheel steer will no doubt make an appearance too.
2018 Ferrari F12 M Spied in Maranello, Expect Rear-Wheel Steer, Aerodynamic Boom
Rear Wheel Steering seems to become a thing now with sportscar manufacturers. They probably realized how amazing it is (911 Turbo/S had it first...talking about modern sportscars here).
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RC:Rear Wheel Steering seems to become a thing now with sportscar manufacturers. They probably realized how amazing it is (911 Turbo/S had it first...talking about modern sportscars here).
Not only with sports cars . It will soon be on most cars . Renault has it now on their new sedan and it does marvels . Audi on the Q7 . It does transform the car in a very good way .
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