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Too early to make predictions. Ferrari is strong, but the season is long and its very bad for ferrari to finish with one car, because previously their tempo of upgrades was low, so they have to build up the margin, before others will pick up the pace. Currently, with the new cars we see ups and downs in peloton.
Apr 10, 2022 7:24:43 PM
Ferdie:Has anybody posted this yet? I might've overlooked that.
Main difference: no porpoising on Moto GP machine :)
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kudryavchik:Guys, how to post youtube video to make it possible to play there.
In Youtube, click share and then embed, copy those codes.
In here, click source, paste code.
Done.
If you need to add words to the video, click source button again to go back to normal typing.
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Max Verstappen Thinks Aston Martin Needs a Faster F1 Safety Car
Verstappen worries that the current Vantage is not fast enough for the cars behind to keep heat in their tires.
(11 April 2022)
Depending on the weekend, Formula 1 is using two different safety cars in the 2022 season. Some weeks, that car is the absurd Mercedes AMG GT Black Series. Other weeks, the duty falls on the more reasonable Aston Martin Vantage F1 Edition. The massive gap in their actual on-track speed from week to week has led to some issues for drivers, including reigning champion Max Verstappen.
F1 tires require significant temperatures to work properly, so drivers have to run relatively quickly behind a safety car to keep grip in them before restarts. With the AMG GT, this is not a problem. The slower Aston Martin, however, does not run laps quickly enough for drivers to maintain those speeds and restart with the same standard they have come to expect at other tracks. As Verstappen told Motorsport, the Vantage is "like a turtle" in comparison to the F1 cars behind it and its lower corner speeds have had a direct impact on the way the series races. Charles Leclerc and George Russell shared his concerns, with Russell noting that the Vantage is "like five seconds" behind the safety car provided by his employers at Mercedes-AMG.
F1's primary safety car has been getting progressively faster since 2010, when Mercedes moved from the SL63 AMG to the more performance-focused SLS AMG. That was followed by the AMG GT S, then the AMG GT R, and now the AMG GT Black Series. When the Vantage was introduced as an alternate safety car for some races in 2021, it was a rare step back in relative speed. In a vacuum, it would be a simple adjustment to significantly lower grip on restarts. In a series where some rounds have a notably fast safety car and others have a softer grand tourer at the front of the field, it creates a very different restart situation week to week.
Does Verstappen have a point about the slower Vantage? If so, Aston Martin might have a solution waiting for them in its existing product line. The new V12 Vantage can wear the same livery, use the same light structure, and significantly increase the car's actual pace. It still might not be as fast as the AMG GT Black Series, but the change would at least keep current corporate partnerships intact and lessen the gap between the two cars.
Apr 13, 2022 9:54:33 AM
I really do not think that any non formula / LMP product will help much. Even if Aston brings a products from the race department (GTE / GT3), which looks similar enough as their street products, I am not sure the difference is enough to excite Max and the others.
At the same time a racecar comes with other challenges, mainly tyres. Do they go with a slick tyre and then risk sudden rain or a semi slick and live with the reduced dry performance.
All in all I think the drivers should just live with it as it is, and the challenges it brings for them. For the spectators it is great as the restarts often gives a bit of "chaos".
The whole point of a safety car is for the cars to be driven in a safe and slow enough manner so the the don't post a risk to marshals working on clearing the track.
That's the only priority.
The alternative would be to red flag the race and get all the cars back into the pits sitting there waiting, which actually cools down the tires even more.
Plus, all the cars behind the safety car would be travelling at the same speed, it's not like the 2nd place car or the leader gets special treatment and has hotter tires than someone else. Great equalizer.
Speed trace graph for the fastest qualifying lap in Australia.
Pretty much what is accepted up and down the paddock. The Ferrari engine is the strongest. Mercedes is the weakest of the 3.
Red Bull Honda is down a little bit on power compared to the Ferraris so they had to trim out the car in order to gain some top speed.
Ferrari can afford to run a higher downforce setup because of the higher power output, hence they hit a top speed 'wall' when the Red Bull can still accelerate. But the Ferrari is ahead on every data point from corner exit out to the 'wall', that's the sign of a stronger engine.
Since the engines are pretty much frozen, Mercedes won't be able to make up the difference anymore, they will have to find gain on their handling department. Not that they are stellar in that department, they are literally the slowest through every corner also.
Red Bull could put up a fight if they can fix their reliability issues, but the Ferrari this year seems just the little bit stronger.
Joost:Another thing I think you can take from these graphs is how much longer redbull and ferrari seem to be running high speed, that is; the mercedes are braking much earlier, right?
They just simply have more power to get up to speed quicker.
Not every corner they are braking earlier, but most are cause they have much less cornering speed so they needed to slow down more just to make the corner. In one particular case it's 20km/hr slower. Some they can stay on the gas a tiny bit longer just because they aren't going as fast so they can brake a tad later.
They are definitely in trouble this year.
All isn't lost however, if Red Bull doesn't fix their reliability issue, they might snatch 2nd place, but catching Ferrari? No way.
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