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    Apr 21, 2005 1:12:33 PM

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    Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

    just seen in the may 2005 "EVO" about the CAYMAN: ".....the rest of the spec is thougt to reach almost clubsport levels, and there is the talk of lighter body panels and limited creature comforts inside. ...perfect for a weekend away at the Nürburgring, where Walter Röhrl has already bettered the 997's 8min 15sec lap time."

    Apr 25, 2005 9:37:41 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

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    just seen in the may 2005 "EVO" about the CAYMAN: ".....the rest of the spec is thougt to reach almost clubsport levels, and there is the talk of lighter body panels and limited creature comforts inside. ...perfect for a weekend away at the Nürburgring, where Walter Röhrl has already bettered the 997's 8min 15sec lap time."



    Funny...

    Apr 26, 2005 8:03:46 AM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

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    Funny...



    What so funny about that??

    Apr 27, 2005 11:14:01 AM

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    Funny...



    What so funny about that??



    It is funny that a lot of people, incl. some car magazines, seem to think that the Cayman is a lightweight, "track-worthy", clubsport racer. The Cayman is what it always supposed to be: a Boxster Coupe...before some clever marketing guy developped a nice sales strategy: adding 15 horses and giving the Boxster Coupe a new name.

    And this strategy seems to work great...

    Apr 27, 2005 11:42:37 AM

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    "Auto-Motor-Sport"from today, Cayman on the front page: 2 nice Pictures (Photoshop ?) no round foglights, nice view of the rear, maybe someone could scann it for everybody.No new facts in the article - Price about 60.000 EUR.

    Apr 27, 2005 12:01:00 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

    I don't have an issue with the fundamental concept of the Cayman S being based on a Boxster - my problem is the rumour that it's going to be positioned above the Boxster and 911 C2 with a Pounds40k+ price tag in the UK. Way too much methinks

    Apr 27, 2005 12:01:12 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

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    Funny...


    It is funny that a lot of people, incl. some car magazines, seem to think that the Cayman is a lightweight, "track-worthy", clubsport racer. The Cayman is what it always supposed to be: a Boxster Coupe...before some clever marketing guy developped a nice sales strategy: adding 15 horses and giving the Boxster Coupe a new name.

    And this strategy seems to work great...


    If it's faster than the 997 on the Ring, it makes a nice track car in my opinion... Sure not on GT3 level, but still.

    Apr 27, 2005 12:54:45 PM

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    Funny...



    What so funny about that??



    It is funny that a lot of people, incl. some car magazines, seem to think that the Cayman is a lightweight, "track-worthy", clubsport racer. The Cayman is what it always supposed to be: a Boxster Coupe...before some clever marketing guy developped a nice sales strategy: adding 15 horses and giving the Boxster Coupe a new name.

    And this strategy seems to work great...



    Absolutely correct. It *will* be a better track car by default being a coupe to begin with and a bit more power.

    I don't think Porsche in any means set out to build it as a great track car......it's a Boxster coupe with a bit more power.....so it's *already* a great track car. The marketing guys can put all sorts of spin on it, but its still a Boxster coupe.....something they should have offered a long time ago. Nothing new here, no magic track car dust or anything.....just a finely tuned, rigid, Boxster coupe. From the start it won't have anything exotic....pretty much standard Boxster fair. Future versions may offer GT3 like performance, but all thats just speculation. The only thing we "know" for sure is that there will be a 3.4L Boxster Coupe.....and maybe a base version, that's it, nothing more.

    Apr 27, 2005 2:43:59 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

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    I don't have an issue with the fundamental concept of the Cayman S being based on a Boxster - my problem is the rumour that it's going to be positioned above the Boxster and 911 C2 with a Pounds40k+ price tag in the UK. Way too much methinks



    Porsche's marketing chief Hans Reidel says in this month's Motor Trand mag that the Cayman will be more expensive than a Boxster BUT sell to a younger buyer .
    My interpretation : Boxster appeals to " internet bench racer " crowd AND baby boomer empty nester crowd who want a relaxed drive and wind in what little hair is left , raising avg age .
    Cayman, being a closed car , will appeal to the experience of just driving - therefore attract a younger buyer who wants perhaps a purer, simpler old-school type 911 vibe , maybe has no kids , or can't quite stretch the $$ to buy up . A cheaper "mid-engined 911 coupe" with a bit sleeker,more expressive styling over the rear , as it were . So he sees the Cayman price as cheaper ,relative to the 911, not more expensive relative to the Boxster.Price deltas have to be looked at from all ends . But what do I know . They're the ones whose paychecks are on the line !

    Apr 27, 2005 2:50:07 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

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    Porsche's marketing chief Hans Reidel says in this month's Motor Trand mag that the Cayman will be more expensive than a Boxster BUT ( at first what seems paradoxical ) attract a younger buyer .
    My interpretation : Boxster appeals to " internet bench racer " crowd AND baby boomer empty nester crowd who want wind in what little hair is left , raising avg age .
    Cayman, being a closed car , will appeal to the experience of just driving - therefore younger .



    What is the average age again of the Boxster driver (35-40) compared to 911 (45-50)? So the Cayman would aim at early 30-ers?

    Don't think it will work like that. Cayman will take some Boxster drivers, some 911 and maybe a TT driver that want's to upgrade. don't think it will take a lot of new buyers.

    Apr 27, 2005 3:26:18 PM

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    I believe the average age of the Boxster driver is 42.

    If they price the thing way high in the $60s.....I have a hard time seeing many buyers. It certainly won't be from TT drivers wanting to upgrade....that's $20-$30k upgrade!

    I see Cayman buyers as previous/present Porsche owners that have hung on to older models waiting for a car such as this....great performance, and a good bit below 911 pricing.

    Again, if they price it too high even those people won't fall for it.

    Apr 27, 2005 5:33:59 PM

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    You're right...I drive a 1990 Carrera 2 and I would seriously consider a Cayman S.

    Apr 27, 2005 6:29:20 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

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    "Auto-Motor-Sport"from today, Cayman on the front page: 2 nice Pictures (Photoshop ?) no round foglights, nice view of the rear, maybe someone could scann it for everybody.No new facts in the article - Price about 60.000 EUR.



    The PS job in AMS shows practically the REAL thing, this is how the Cayman looks alike. So if somebody wants to scan the picture and post it...it would be highly interesting.

    Apr 27, 2005 6:42:48 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

    SCAN SCAN SCAN :P

    Apr 27, 2005 11:32:49 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

    I second the motion.

    Apr 28, 2005 4:12:44 AM

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    I third that!
    -Joost-

    Apr 28, 2005 4:18:22 AM

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    I quadruple that! then

    Apr 28, 2005 6:52:19 AM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

    come on someone scan it!

    Apr 28, 2005 7:49:19 AM

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    sorry no scan, but 2 pictures...

    Apr 28, 2005 7:55:27 AM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

    no 2

    Apr 28, 2005 9:22:30 AM

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    Apr 28, 2005 9:23:26 AM

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    Apr 28, 2005 11:10:49 AM

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    Not my color, but looks prety good...sign me up

    Apr 28, 2005 1:08:03 PM

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    Thanks guys. Weren't these posted a while back though? I thought the Cayman was going to get round foglights? I'm interested to see how that would alter the appearance (I have no imagination ).

    Apr 28, 2005 1:19:52 PM

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    Thanks guys. Weren't these posted a while back though? I thought the Cayman was going to get round foglights? I'm interested to see how that would alter the appearance (I have no imagination ).



    Yes, they are very old.....some of the first ones to come out.....nothing new here. The back shot I believe is pretty close to the real thing.....the front and side profile will be different IMO.

    Apr 28, 2005 1:33:10 PM

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    i'm not very keen on the back - would have preferred to see a near vertical rear window, much more sporting IMO.

    Apr 28, 2005 2:31:41 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

    "vertical rear window" ?

    Remember this ...?

    [image]http://www.theautobahn.com/forum/f6_attachment.php?&attachmentid=4284&twidth=320[/image]

    Apr 28, 2005 2:54:48 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

    i was thinking more along the lines of the 904 / dino 246GT, with slim butresses.

    Apr 28, 2005 4:32:34 PM

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    Re: Evo mag: Cayman snaps at 911's heels

    I'm sorry to say, but I don't think this has the details right. I expect the front intakes to look different, not standard 987 front. Also, I think the side intakes are differen, not boxster, and the rear must be somewhat different too. You can see in the spypics that the rear fenders are much more pronounced in the real cayman. Cand I think the cayman wont have the word "boxster" on the back :P So, these pics don't give me a lot to be nervous about... and if it is going to look like this, they made a big mistake... this is a 911, and I thought it was the intention to move the boxster family away of the 911?
    -Joost-

    Apr 28, 2005 5:07:39 PM

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    ...and I think the cayman wont have the word "boxster" on the back :P



    Hahaha...good eyes.
     
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