04-Mar-2022 17:48:18
- Leawood911
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Re: Welcome to the new Taycan Forum!
Whoopsy:Leawood911:Whoopsy:What is meant by not as successful? What's the metric?
If it means it's not selling in great numbers, well that would be skewed by the length of time Tesla is in the market isn't it?
By the same metric, Tesla aren't successful at all when compared with say a Civic or Corolla isn't it? Honda been making Civic for what? 30 years? 40 years? it has to be very successful if it stayed in production for so long. and Honda been selling them in great numbers every year.
The local Tesla store still has about 20ish unsold Teslas on the lot, while the Polestar dealer has zero car. Does that mean no one wants a Tesla while the Polestar is the hot item? The Rivian store also don't have any to sell. Lucid has a long wait list also. Porsche dealers are also out of Taycans. They have no stock, incoming Taycans are all sold custom ordered cars. Dealers actually wanted some cars for stock but Porsche just can't keep up with demand right now.
Insurance company forbid title change while a car is under repair. So it cannot be used as a trade in until it is fixed.
Did I compared the Polestar's volume knob with Tesla? Did you know up until last year, the Honda Ridgeline only has a touch screen control volume 'slider'? They took away the knob and that was one of the worse thing about the Ridgeline.
Best thing about non-Tesla EVs? They all uses industrial standard plug. The one home charger I have in the garage can charge any EV, I am not locked into only Teslas. The plug can go into a Porsche, a Audi, A Jeep, and now a Polestar. If I buy a GM EV, or a KIA EV? Same plug. it will also charges my incoming Ford F150 Lightning. also. One plug to rule them all.
That is some amazing rationale. Applause.
By metric I will go with EV units sold/produced and by market cap. I think that is enough.
You keep mentioning the cars on the lot. You realize there are many reasons for them to be there. The fact remains you have to order them online and the online site tells you what the wait is. Maybe there are exception but few can travel up to Canada to buy from your local dealer. Still, I suspect they don’t have any you can walk up and buy. It would be the exception.
The reason the others are sold out is pretty meaningless. Maybe they are not as vertically integrated and can’t make them presently.
I appreciate the fact that you like all the other EVs so much. They just don’t have any appeal to me. They don’t have the software, tech, performance or resale value. Not to mention safety, reliability and style. I hate the conventional car interiors but lack planning and design integration imho.
but seriously - I’m glad you are okay and we’re not hurt. Best of luck with the insurance. Will this cause your rates to go up? Could have been the 918! Thanks for all the fun debates.
in case you missed it, Vancouver is the biggest market for Tesla on a per capita basis. EV sales are strong here, more so than any US city by the same metric. Helps a lot when gas is over CAD$2 a litre now. We had always had the highest gas price in Canada so EV had always been popular, especially with all the self labeled greenie west coast people.
Tesla has been them default choice for so long. It's like going to your favourite restaurant and keep ordering the same steak. But the same restaurant's chicken, fish, seafood and pasta are also superb, just that not enough people try them.
All these new competitors bring different attributes to the segment. Not every one wants to spend the money buying numerous cameras on the car and a powerful processor for autopilot usage which they do not use, they would much rather have those money invested in better fit and finish and material usage. Polestar, Ioniq 5 are in the same price bracket as a Model 3, Y, and while they are short on processing power, they excel in interior, which every buyer will spend time in.
I get Vancouver is a big Tesla market. Still does not address that there is a wait and those cars you see can’t be purchased today. Lol.
You know I’m not green at all. I drive the Tesla more often just for fun than any other car I have ever owned by a factor of 2x at least.
I love the interior and quality of everything. You make it sound as though it is a prison. In fact it is an amazing place to relax in. Best sound system ever. The autopilot is amazing. And it is included. To assume the public will trade an interior for all the features offered by Tesla - 100’s the completions does not have - is a huge gamble. Huge. From what we see in the stock market and actual sales it looks like a bad bet. You obviously love interiors with lots of buttons and switches. I prefer cars which do more than look good to a few.
Time will tell. So far there is no contest. At all.
Do you want a list of all the things a Tesla can do which no other car can do?