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Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
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Fanch said:
[My dealer told me to expect to pay roughly 12,000 Euros.
I will confirm this as soon as I get his email with the exact price.
I heard something below 10000 Euro incl. 16% german VAT. This would be almost the same price Porsche charged for the "old" powerkit and it would make sense.
12000 Euro would be way too much and I doubt that any customer would pay 12000 Euro for 26 more horses.
The latest semi-official rumour I heard even indicated something around 7000-8000 Euro incl. 16% german VAT for the powerkit. As long as we don't have any official number, we shouldn't speculate.
Thanks RC,
My dealer thought about 12,000 bc the old one was 10,000 I think and since this time, it comes with PSE, he thought it could be more expensive.
But the cheaper the better.
He will email me the price as soon as he gets it.
So far, he's just ticked the option box so that my 997S can go into prod as soon as they start rolling out the 06 models.
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
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Fanch said:
[He will email me the price as soon as he gets it.
So far, he's just ticked the option box so that my 997S can go into prod as soon as they start rolling out the 06 models.
When have you heard they will start making the 2006's? There have been lots of discussions here about when the 2006 models will begin. Some have said June, others July and I happen to think August after the plant shut-down. What have you been told?
Phil
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
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I heard something below 10000 Euro incl. 16% german VAT. This would be almost the same price Porsche charged for the "old" powerkit and it would make sense.
12000 Euro would be way too much and I doubt that any customer would pay 12000 Euro for 26 more horses.
The latest semi-official rumour I heard even indicated something around 7000-8000 Euro incl. 16% german VAT for the powerkit. As long as we don't have any official number, we shouldn't speculate.
Interesting for a lot of people: the upcoming Carrera 4 is rumoured to get the same power like on the Carrera S BUT the Carrera 4 S may get the powerkit as a standard option from the start. Both, the Carrera 4 and Carrera 4 S are rumoured to have the wider body.
I'd wish that Porsche would be customer friendly and offer the powerkit at a special price for customers who bought their cars BEFORE the official announcement.
It would be OK if they'd pay for install, they could always make a deal with the dealers to send the "fixed" install cost bill to them.
Same power, more power, 325 hp, 355 hp, 381 hp, wide body, this all gets rather confusing, don't you think so?
Concerning the price of the powerkit:
Although I have no reason to disbelive you Fanch, I'd say 12k for what you get is rather exaggerated...
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
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Concerning the price of the powerkit:
Although I have no reason to disbelive you Fanch, I'd say 12k for what you get is rather exaggerated...
I don't remember that the powerkit was ever a beststeller.
So I doubt the 12000 Euro figure too but of course fanch has to believe his dealer, right?!
If Porsche charges 12000 Euro for this kit, I won't retrofit it (something I actually planned to do). I already abandoned Cayenne Turbo powerkit retrofit due to an obvious reason: the facelifted Cayenne is rumoured to show up next year, incl. up to 100 kg less weight and a nicer front part.
And this car is also rumoured to get a little power gain of aprox. 20 HP (470 HP vs. 450 HP), not to speak about the updated powerkit with 510-520 HP (no rumoured figure yet).
I would probably pay up to 8000 Euro for the 997 Carrera S powerkit...INCLUDING install. Considering the parts involved, I think that the install can't be too expensive, unless you need to remove the engine from the engine bay which remains to be seen. 8000 Euro and not one Cent more. I doubt that any customer is willing to pay 12000 Euro for 25-26 horses more. This would be ridiculous.
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
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Rossi said:
Concerning the price of the powerkit:
Although I have no reason to disbelive you Fanch, I'd say 12k for what you get is rather exaggerated...
I would probably pay up to 8000 Euro for the 997 Carrera S powerkit...INCLUDING install. Considering the parts involved, I think that the install can't be too expensive, unless you need to remove the engine from the engine bay which remains to be seen. 8000 Euro and not one Cent more. I doubt that any customer is willing to pay 12000 Euro for 25-26 horses more. This would be ridiculous.
RC,
How much was the powerkit on the 996 mk2 please?
We should also not forget that this time, it comes with sport exhaust which is already 1700 Euros I think.
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
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RC,
How much was the powerkit on the 996 mk2 please?
We should also not forget that this time, it comes with sport exhaust which is already 1700 Euros I think.
Also,
Wasn't the 996 Powerkit about 15,000 Euros when it came out?
Sounds like a lot money for 30 hp too but it still got a lot of praises.
Not so the 996 one I admit, but to be fair, Porsche's powerkits have never been good value anyway
But 0 to 100 in 4.6 secs and a top speed of 300 kmh is rather impressive!
Apr 15, 2005 1:26:39 AM
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Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
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Not so the 996 one I admit, but to be fair, Porsche's powerkits have never been good value anyway
But 0 to 100 in 4.6 secs and a top speed of 300 kmh is rather impressive!
That's right, the money for the powerkit is just wasted, as you will never see one penny of it when you sell the car. And for me 4.8 sec and 293 kph is impressive enough.
But Fanch you are right, the 1700 Euro sports exhaust will be included.
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
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Fanch said:
Not so the 996 one I admit, but to be fair, Porsche's powerkits have never been good value anyway
But 0 to 100 in 4.6 secs and a top speed of 300 kmh is rather impressive!
That's right, the money for the powerkit is just wasted, as you will never see one penny of it when you sell the car. And for me 4.8 sec and 293 kph is impressive enough.
But Fanch you are right, the 1700 Euro sports exhaust will be included.
The 996 TT owners are getting about $5k extra for thier $15k X50 package when they sell thier car. That pacakage has upgraded turbos and intercoolers, strengthed tranny and modified exhaust. Maybe one of the reasons these pacakages loose it's value because Porsche bundle's the power package with other options for a relative bargain at the end of the model cycle.
Scott
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
what will happen with those who already have the PSE,????
will they pay again?
Will it be another version of PSE that is offered with the powerkit???
And if the powerkit gives 0-62 in 4.6
then this assumes that all mags that reported 997S 0-100 bellow 4,6 are not accurate!
not even touching some specific mag who showed 0-100 in 4.1 and 3,8 respectively
will they pay again?
Will it be another version of PSE that is offered with the powerkit???
And if the powerkit gives 0-62 in 4.6
then this assumes that all mags that reported 997S 0-100 bellow 4,6 are not accurate!
not even touching some specific mag who showed 0-100 in 4.1 and 3,8 respectively
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Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
Its worth just to get that dummy black plastic filler in the middle of the bumper! They should have at least put a mesh grill and said it was for brake cooling!
As for the upgrades, ehhh, nothing outregious for current owners, but for people about to order, it should be fun. One thing I like is the two tone interior, the monochrome look is to severe in my opinion. I'd love, for instance, a contrasting roof liner.
I'd love the mp3 player to!!!
As for the upgrades, ehhh, nothing outregious for current owners, but for people about to order, it should be fun. One thing I like is the two tone interior, the monochrome look is to severe in my opinion. I'd love, for instance, a contrasting roof liner.
I'd love the mp3 player to!!!
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
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I think I will add X51 even if there is a longer wait.
Will there be any visual clues that X51 is present ?
Yes, the third radiator.
Last week I drove a 997 C2 Cab. Tip.and there was a radiator in the middle.
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
Sorry to digress to more trivial non-mechanical matters, but WILL THE 2006 U.S. 997 have satellite radio?
(i don't dare ask about Bluetooth)
Please, please Porsche... figure out the sat radio and bring yourselves
right into the 1990's!!!!!
(i don't dare ask about Bluetooth)
Please, please Porsche... figure out the sat radio and bring yourselves
right into the 1990's!!!!!
Re: OFFICIAL!!! New options for 06 models incl. X51
Hello,
for those thinking about a X51 upgrade ... maybe you should check the offers of Wendland-Tuning ... a quite conservative but solid company in germany ... they offer a 385 HP upgrade ... sport exhaust included ... for quite lean 6600.- Euros ... and the price is labour included !!!
The figures are taken by german car magazine "Gute Fahrt":
0-100 km/h = 4,4 sec
0-200 km/h = 14.5 sec
Top Speed = 298 km/h
425 nm at 4600 rpm
... not bad ???!
For those about to rock ... there is a 400 HP Kit available ... at the price of 12.900 Euros ... exhaust system and labour also included ... and the figures for this kit are absolutely impressive ... and they were taken by auto-motor-sport magazine:
0-100 km/h = 4,1 sec
0-200 km/h = 13,6 sec
440 nm at 4700 rpm
Top-Speed = 303 km/h
I had a phone call with the guys today because i got lots of good recommendations from people i know personally ... so i picked up the information ... and ... NO ... i don't have any commercial ties to them ... i'm just thinking about ordering a 997 S ... and i'm checking my options in terms of best value for my money !!!
The guys also have two videos on there server (Presseberichte) that might give you a first impression ... taken by auto motor sport TV ... i like the sound of their sport exhaust ...
What do you think ??? Of course warranty is an issue ... although they have an own coverage ... but surely it is not the same thing ...
Greetz
for those thinking about a X51 upgrade ... maybe you should check the offers of Wendland-Tuning ... a quite conservative but solid company in germany ... they offer a 385 HP upgrade ... sport exhaust included ... for quite lean 6600.- Euros ... and the price is labour included !!!
The figures are taken by german car magazine "Gute Fahrt":
0-100 km/h = 4,4 sec
0-200 km/h = 14.5 sec
Top Speed = 298 km/h
425 nm at 4600 rpm
... not bad ???!
For those about to rock ... there is a 400 HP Kit available ... at the price of 12.900 Euros ... exhaust system and labour also included ... and the figures for this kit are absolutely impressive ... and they were taken by auto-motor-sport magazine:
0-100 km/h = 4,1 sec
0-200 km/h = 13,6 sec
440 nm at 4700 rpm
Top-Speed = 303 km/h
I had a phone call with the guys today because i got lots of good recommendations from people i know personally ... so i picked up the information ... and ... NO ... i don't have any commercial ties to them ... i'm just thinking about ordering a 997 S ... and i'm checking my options in terms of best value for my money !!!
The guys also have two videos on there server (Presseberichte) that might give you a first impression ... taken by auto motor sport TV ... i like the sound of their sport exhaust ...
What do you think ??? Of course warranty is an issue ... although they have an own coverage ... but surely it is not the same thing ...
Greetz
Small update
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Fanch said:
Here we go with the new options for MY 2006:
- PCM 2 now reads MP3 files from CD in the internal CD reader.
- Suppresion of the storage pocket behind the sport seats.
- New two tones interior options (Black/ Stone, Black/ Sand and black/ Terracotta), already available for the Boxster.
- And FINALLY, the one we've all been waiting for! The Carrera S POWERKIT!
- Price increase of 2%
- New color: Nephrite green
- For UK and French market, now with PCM, you get TCM, real time traffic analyser and GPS works out the quickest way to your destination according to traffic
- A new option called Electronique onboard agenda (french translation), from what I understood, it's a device that analyses all the data during you A to B trip. RC can provide more info I am sure.
- Finally on the MP3 player, it will be playable through the PCM only. It appears the CD charger will NOT read MP3 CDs
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