Apr 15, 2005 10:33:22 PM
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Mithras said:
Those are good times (though a little disappointing) Still they are nothing compaired to this car...
0-60mph - 2.7secs
0-100mph - 5.5secs
0-150mph - 11.8secs
30-70mph - 2.0secs
0-100mph-0 - 10.3secs
100mph-0 Braking - 3.9secs
Standing 1/4 mile - 10.5secs @ 140mph terminal
Speed Achieved - 204mph on the Bruntingthorpe straight
Top Speed - 231mph est. (gearing limited)
And you could buy about 5 or 6 of them for the price of an Enzo... The Ultima GTR.
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nberry said:
Why is anyone surprised by these results? The Enzo has 40hp more and is lighter than the CGT. It was a foregone conclusion.
Ben, this is no different than your CGT outpowering 99.9% of the cars on the road. Why would anyone think they can stay with you in a speed test?
Regarding twisties, none of these supercars can claim any prize. Consider the lap times at the Ring of cars designed specifically for that purpose. They all were blown away.
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nberry said:
Why is anyone surprised by these results? The Enzo has 40hp more and is lighter than the CGT. It was a foregone conclusion.
Apr 16, 2005 12:46:27 PM
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ben, lj said:
btw, it looks like ferrari's growing nose has struck again. the real curb weight in independent magazine tests has showed the enzo to weigh 200 lbs more than ferrari's claims or nearly a 200 lb heavier (3230) than the base similarly equipped CGT .....
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dsts6 said:
I thought the CGT was lighter than the enzo, I was pretty sure I red it in a mag.
But anyways, niether of the two are as light ast they should be, why cant they be lighter like the mclaren f1?
Apr 17, 2005 4:09:40 AM
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Carlos from Spain said:
the F430 turns out to be 150lbs heavier than what they say,
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Carlos from Spain said:
the F430 turns out to be 150lbs heavier than what they say,
But, it will still be 300-400lbs. lighter than a 997tt.
Apr 17, 2005 8:21:10 AM
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Carlos from Spain said:
the F430 turns out to be 150lbs heavier than what they say,
But, it will still be 300-400lbs. lighter than a 997tt. Pity, when the 430 beats the 997tt in a comparison test... the extra weight will be its only Achilles' heel.
Apr 17, 2005 1:22:31 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Ben thats ridiculous, 200lbs!? if true, its pathetic... they lied about the real HP output of their F360SC, the F430 turns out to be 150lbs heavier than what they say, now the Enzo is really 200lbs heavier? not very trust inspireing if you ask me.
Apr 17, 2005 3:43:26 PM
Apr 17, 2005 4:48:40 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Are you sure Francois? the 996TT is curently 1590Kg, and I don't think it was ever under 1500kg when introduced, if I remember correctly it awas around 200kg heavier than the 996C2 of the time making it more around 1545kg
Apr 17, 2005 5:04:57 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
About the -20mm 997S, I have been wondering how much the rear differential of the -20mm weighed towards having any influence if any the kerb weight of the 997S. How much can a rear mechanical LSD weigh? anybody
Apr 17, 2005 5:56:47 PM
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Fanch said:but somewhere along the line, the Turbo has gained 50 kgs in its production life...
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Grant said:
I think it's probably around 25 pounds (12kg), based on this info for the 915 gearbox...
...Carlos, I think the LSD will more than make up for the weight penalty with extra performance in the corners (said to be entire seconds/lap) in the attached article:
http://www.guardtransmission.com/velocity.htm
Apr 17, 2005 8:09:12 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
I haven't heard the 997TT's weight yet to be able to come to such a conclusion of a 3750-3850lbs 997TT. But, judging by the 997C2 vs 996C2, and the 996TTS' weight it should be around 200lbs difference than the F430, not 300-400lbs, but who knows maybe we will get a surprise for better or for worse. Also the 996TT's extra weight didn't seem to hurt its handling compared to the F360 either, so if they keep the weight "similar" to the 996TT, then it should be a problem.
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dsts6 said:
why is the 911 turbo so heavy? what stops them from making it lighter
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Carlos from Spain said:
I haven't heard the 997TT's weight yet to be able to come to such a conclusion of a 3750-3850lbs 997TT. But, judging by the 997C2 vs 996C2, and the 996TTS' weight it should be around 200lbs difference than the F430, not 300-400lbs, but who knows maybe we will get a surprise for better or for worse. Also the 996TT's extra weight didn't seem to hurt its handling compared to the F360 either, so if they keep the weight "similar" to the 996TT, then it should be a problem.
I've read the f430 is about 3300lbs. The 997tt is guaranteed to be heavier than a 996tt. I'm estimating it to weigh more than 3600lbs.