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Topspeed:

Carlos from Spain:

Whoopsy:

Actually not today. Hamilton is the fastest guy on track today. Perez only piped him to the fastest lap by 0.1 second.

To be fair Russel out qualified Hamilton, and during the fast stint on soft tires Russell was on a more comfortable place behind the RB and did not have to push like Hamilton who had to catch Borras and Sainz, so Hamilton being faster on a few laps on that soft stint at the end of the race doesn't say much to how fast Russell could have been if he pushed it instead of managing the gap he had. And Russell has clearly been the faster overall driver of the two this season so far.

Seriously, I know spanish people are still salty about Alonso/Hamilton in late 00's but you can't deny Hamilton has been fast. And yesterday he did and amazing recovery from P19 to P4! Unfortunately he had bad luck again and he was forced to cool down the car and let Sainz go by.

 

Seriously, why can't some Hamilton fans handle any opinion that is different without getting salty and dismissing it as hating? you are in for a tough season with this attitude. Personally I don't have a pilot in rooting for this season so couldn't care less.

So one more time, I don't say he want fast, read again, I said that it wasn't fair saying he was faster than Russell just because of those laps with softs at the end of the race when Russell was just managing his gap in 3rd as opposed to Hamilton having to catch Bottas and Sainz for 4th? and audit in qualifying for example Russell was faster than Hamilton.

watt:

I was impressed with Ocon and Bottas too.  But so sorry for CHUCK, he's so fast and sweet he deserved it,  but then again Max blew up in. 2 races earlier and had DRS problems today-no wonder he was pissed.

The DRS problem is reoccurring from last year. One would think that problem was corrected over the break.  I hope that Ferrari’s issues are one-off and will happen again for the rest of the season. 

Carlos from Spain:

Whoopsy:

Actually not today. Hamilton is the fastest guy on track today. Perez only piped him to the fastest lap by 0.1 second.

To be fair Russel out qualified Hamilton, and during the fast stint on soft tires Russell was on a more comfortable place behind the RB and did not have to push like Hamilton who had to catch Borras and Sainz, so Hamilton being faster on a few laps on that soft stint at the end of the race doesn't say much to how fast Russell could have been if he pushed it instead of managing the gap he had. And Russell has clearly been the faster overall driver of the two this season so far.

Qualifying pace vs race pace. Russell has proven himself to be a great qualifier so far.

He seems also be able to adapt better to the new car than Hamilton, good combination of attributes. Give him a comparable car to the RBs and he will outshine Verstappen. 

Your countryman Alonso did very well. Basically starting dead last to finish 9th in the points. In an Alpine. A better accomplishment than Hamilton's 19th-4th. 

The Mercedes are the 5th and 6th fastest cars, so him finishing at least 5th or 6th should be at least a given. the Alpines aren't a top 10 car at all. 

+1 I think Russell is proving to be a more complete driver than Max, so I think you are right, given equal cars, my bet would be on Russell over Max too. There are many fast drivers when driving the fastest car, but those with also a nack for race strategy, one lap qualifies, consistency race after race, and adaptability to different car/track conditions? not that many. 

Alonso did well, unfortunately he doesn't have Sainz's car, we have a very open season this year with more drivers than usual with possibilities, it's too bad he can't be in the mix too but I think his time is over.

well, Russell was certainly blocking on lap 28, and yes he's quicker when Max's drs doesn't work, but look how Perez caught them both up with working drs!  we'll see what happens when max's car is working.  As for whomever said Max never passed him on the track - Russell bailed to the pits just before Max did....  And once back on mediums Max crushed Perez and drove away from Russell.

And of course on 31  Perez blew right by Russell..... like he was standing still.  Reality is harsh.

Russell isn't known for being Mr Saturday for nothing. he really shines in one lap pace.

Long run race pace he is up there, may not be the best of the best yet but he is getting there. He is however teammate to the best and benefits greatly with communications. Pretty sure Lewis has been talking to George and pass on his knowledge. He's been with Mercedes for so long he knew what Mercedes had wanted for sure.

Think the Mercedes upgrade package is a success, could bring them much closer to the top two. Red Bull still have far superior straight line speed over anyone else, and the Ferrari shines in mid-high speed corners. They do have the best champion caliber drivers pairing, next best would be Ferrari's Leclerc and Sainz. Max is awesome but Perez is a step down for sure, he is only up there because of the car, sort of like Bottas of his Mercedes years. Or more like Barrichello with Schumacher. Yeah, the Schumacher one is more fitting. The Red Bull team is build around Max, just like how Ferrari was build around Schumacher. Mercedes now is run more like the Senna Prost McLaren years. 

Last few years I am liking Alonso more and more. I really do wish him getting into one of the top cars for 1 year and try and get his 3rd. He deserves winning another title so much. 

The Daily Mail has an amusing summary of Whiny Lewee's travails:

"Lewis Hamilton had to be dragged back from the brink of despair in scorching Barcelona but now believes he can once again conquer the world....

...Hamilton suffered a puncture, was reshod and languishing more than a minute off the front....

....He came on to the radio practically begging to retire from the race on lap five. ‘I would save this engine if I were you,’ he said. ‘I’m sorry.’ What? This renowned fighter settling for a siesta in the sun? Was he not even going to attempt to roll the stone away from the tomb?....

Save the Engine!!!  A siesta in the sun, entitled til he drops, my man Leweeeeeee!!!  Time for you to go push wake crap with Harry and Megan.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/live/article-10837293/Spanish-Grand-Prix-2022-LIVE-Result.html

watt:

well, Russell was certainly blocking on lap 28, and yes he's quicker when Max's drs doesn't work, but look how Perez caught them both up with working drs!  we'll see what happens when max's car is working.  As for whomever said Max never passed him on the track - Russell bailed to the pits just before Max did....  And once back on mediums Max crushed Perez and drove away from Russell.

And of course on 31  Perez blew right by Russell..... like he was standing still.  Reality is harsh.

Exactly. Nothing more to add. 

watt:

....He came on to the radio practically begging to retire from the race on lap five. ‘I would save this engine if I were you,’ he said. ‘I’m sorry.’ What? This renowned fighter settling for a siesta in the sun? Was he not even going to attempt to roll the stone away from the tomb?....

Save the Engine!!!  A siesta in the sun, entitled til he drops, my man Leweeeeeee!!!  Time for you to go push wake crap with Harry and Megan.

Afterall, he was at least contributing 50% to the crash with Magnussen. There was plenty of room at the inside and Sainz in front drove a closer line... without a competitor next to him.

watt:

The Daily Mail has an amusing summary of Whiny Lewee's travails:

"Lewis Hamilton had to be dragged back from the brink of despair in scorching Barcelona but now believes he can once again conquer the world....

...Hamilton suffered a puncture, was reshod and languishing more than a minute off the front....

....He came on to the radio practically begging to retire from the race on lap five. ‘I would save this engine if I were you,’ he said. ‘I’m sorry.’ What? This renowned fighter settling for a siesta in the sun? Was he not even going to attempt to roll the stone away from the tomb?....

Save the Engine!!!  A siesta in the sun, entitled til he drops, my man Leweeeeeee!!!  Time for you to go push wake crap with Harry and Megan.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/live/article-10837293/Spanish-Grand-Prix-2022-LIVE-Result.html

 

Perhaps he just had his nails done and didn’t want to mess them up. 

Hah whenever Hamilton is doing well the haters come out in force 

Like it or not, Hamilton inspired a whole new generation of racers, his work ethnics is second to none, nothing was spoon fed to him, he doesn't have rich or famous daddies to plan his career, he has earned everything by himself. 

Leclerc, Russell, Norris, Albon, Gasly are all cut from the same cloth. They get to where they are by their own abilities, by winning stuff coming up the ranks, get noticed and put in great junior programs. 

The next decade of F1 is going to be fun watching all of them fight for titles. 

Ferdie:

watt:

....He came on to the radio practically begging to retire from the race on lap five. ‘I would save this engine if I were you,’ he said. ‘I’m sorry.’ What? This renowned fighter settling for a siesta in the sun? Was he not even going to attempt to roll the stone away from the tomb?....

Save the Engine!!!  A siesta in the sun, entitled til he drops, my man Leweeeeeee!!!  Time for you to go push wake crap with Harry and Megan.

Afterall, he was at least contributing 50% to the crash with Magnussen. There was plenty of room at the inside and Sainz in front drove a closer line... without a competitor next to him.

 

 

And Hamilton didn't change his steering angle one bit, while K-Mag turned into Hamilton......... 

Unlike last year, where the stewards had decided the inside car will automatically be in the wrong, this year they are looking at all angles and intends before making judgements. A breath of fresh air to be honest. 

@Carlos from Spain

So one more time, I don't say he want fast, read again, I said that it wasn't fair saying he was faster than Russell just because of those laps with softs at the end of the race when Russell was just managing his gap in 3rd as opposed to Hamilton having to catch Bottas and Sainz for 4th? and audit in qualifying for example Russell was faster than Hamilton.

So, your own comment isn't fair, right?

And Russell has clearly been the faster overall driver of the two this season so far.

Qualifying: Russell 3 - 3 Hamilton.

Race: Russell 5 - 1 Hamilton

Russell was lucky twice with Safety Cars;

Mercedes tried a different setup on Hamilton's car in Saudi Arabia which turn out to be bad; His car was also slightly heavier(more sensors);

Italy: Hamilton was stuck in a DRS train (Gasly + Albon);

Spain: Kmag crashed into Hamilton on turn 4. Result: flat tire, diffuser damage and a trip to the box. P6->P19. Car overheated at the end and that made him lose one position.

Russell has not been faster than Hamilton like some people make believe.

Always an excuse for when he doesn't do well, that's for sure. 

JoeRockhead:

Always an excuse for when he doesn't do well, that's for sure. 

Yup! Russell just got lucky that's all ... five races in already and it's still all luck....  going to be interesting to see that argument develop the more races go by  

Carlos from Spain:

JoeRockhead:

Always an excuse for when he doesn't do well, that's for sure. 

Yup! Russell just got lucky that's all ... five races in already and it's still all luck....  going to be interesting to see that argument develop the more races go by  

Case closed. 

Whoopsy:

Ferdie:

watt:

....He came on to the radio practically begging to retire from the race on lap five. ‘I would save this engine if I were you,’ he said. ‘I’m sorry.’ What? This renowned fighter settling for a siesta in the sun? Was he not even going to attempt to roll the stone away from the tomb?....

Save the Engine!!!  A siesta in the sun, entitled til he drops, my man Leweeeeeee!!!  Time for you to go push wake crap with Harry and Megan.

Afterall, he was at least contributing 50% to the crash with Magnussen. There was plenty of room at the inside and Sainz in front drove a closer line... without a competitor next to him.

 

 

 

And Hamilton didn't change his steering angle one bit, while K-Mag turned into Hamilton......... 

Unlike last year, where the stewards had decided the inside car will automatically be in the wrong, this year they are looking at all angles and intends before making judgements. A breath of fresh air to be honest. 

 

There is also a new rule to leave at least one car width to the opponent...

Hamilton has always pushed the outside opponent off track, that is something of a "signature move" of him. So after all, would he had left more room to Magnussen, he might've lost the position but, in that case, just one and not 14...

Whoopsy:

Hah whenever Hamilton is doing well the haters come out in force 

Well, some people just don't follow blindly one single driver. They realize that there is more than one great driver on the grid. Can you?

Whoopsy:

Like it or not, Hamilton inspired a whole new generation of racers, his work ethnics is second to none, nothing was spoon fed to him, he doesn't have rich or famous daddies to plan his career, he has earned everything by himself. 

Wrong, that title goes to Schumacher. He has done all that before and even without the backing of McLaren. He was 21 when he received a contract from Mercedes, driving a truck (in comparison to single-seaters) called Sauber C9/11. Remember that?

Ferdie:

Whoopsy:

Ferdie:

watt:

....He came on to the radio practically begging to retire from the race on lap five. ‘I would save this engine if I were you,’ he said. ‘I’m sorry.’ What? This renowned fighter settling for a siesta in the sun? Was he not even going to attempt to roll the stone away from the tomb?....

Save the Engine!!!  A siesta in the sun, entitled til he drops, my man Leweeeeeee!!!  Time for you to go push wake crap with Harry and Megan.

Afterall, he was at least contributing 50% to the crash with Magnussen. There was plenty of room at the inside and Sainz in front drove a closer line... without a competitor next to him.

 

 

 

And Hamilton didn't change his steering angle one bit, while K-Mag turned into Hamilton......... 

Unlike last year, where the stewards had decided the inside car will automatically be in the wrong, this year they are looking at all angles and intends before making judgements. A breath of fresh air to be honest. 

 

There is also a new rule to leave at least one car width to the opponent...

Hamilton has always pushed the outside opponent off track, that is something of a "signature move" of him. So after all, would he had left more room to Magnussen, he might've lost the position but, in that case, just one and not 14...

Last I check, K-Mag had almost half a track to his left, so Hamilton definitely left more than a car's width for sure. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Hence why the stewards deemed it and racing incident and be done with it.

Regardless, people see what they wanted to see. 

And Hamilton isn't the headline grabber this year. Verstappen is. Max is fighting to win 2 WDC in a row with against Leclerc, Hamilton isn't even close to being in that fight. Russell is closer. 

It would seems both Red Bull and Ferrari have some issues with their car, and with Mercedes sorting out their car soon, any slip up by them could prove to be the opening Russell needed. 

Ferdie:

Whoopsy:

Hah whenever Hamilton is doing well the haters come out in force 

Well, some people just don't follow blindly one single driver. They realize that there is more than one great driver on the grid. Can you?

Of course, absolutely. You missed reading up on me commenting on Russell, Norris, Leclerc, etc? The world doesn't' revolve around Verstappen or Hamilton. 

 

Whoopsy:

Like it or not, Hamilton inspired a whole new generation of racers, his work ethnics is second to none, nothing was spoon fed to him, he doesn't have rich or famous daddies to plan his career, he has earned everything by himself. 

Wrong, that title goes to Schumacher. He has done all that before and even without the backing of McLaren. He was 21 when he received a contract from Mercedes, driving a truck (in comparison to single-seaters) called Sauber C9/11. Remember that?

Another of course! And I am not wrong either. Schumacher represent the generation before Hamilton. He was the idol Vettel looked up to after all. Hamilton is the current generation's inspiration.

Next up would be the current 'kids', Russell, Leclerc, Norris, Gasly, Albon. They are all just started to write their own book. Formula 1 is in good hands. 

Verstappen isn't part of that group simply because while hyper talented, he had a head start with his dad's connections. Perhaps he would have been noticed no matter what, but that's a moot point cause Jos had everything planned beforehand. But full marks to Max, he did out perform his peers, he did not turned out to be another Stroll, Mazepin or Latifi. He earned his seat at Red Bull fair and square. He also won the WDC last year. Not sure how that's gonna inspire a new generation of kids however, there are only so many sons of F1 drivers with connections. 

Christian Horner is making more news. This time about the cost cap. He wanted that increased. 

He did say 'several teams' could miss races because of the tight cost cap. Especially the mid field teams. 

Strangely, he didn't say it's his team. Which, according to Ferrari's Binotto, could be the team that could be up against the cap soon with such regular upgrades. 

One solid midfield team, Alpine, sang a different tune. Otmar quickly shot down Horner's argument. He's got a point. Inflation and rise in freight cost didn't just suddenly creep up to the teams. If freight cost 2.5-3.5mil more, they could have slash their development budget by the same amount. to deal with it. 

Midfield teams had always been dealing with a tight budget all the time, unlike the likes of Red Bulls, Mercedes and Ferrari, who would much prefer to throw money at problems which they can't anymore with the cost cap. 

Personally, I support Otmar's view. Keep the cap tight, let the big spending teams cut their cost to close up the field. Or worse, let them have to skip races and forgo points in the championship. Imagine Red Bull had to skip the race at Red Bull Ring, how embarrassing that would be for Horner. That will teach him in a hurry.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/teams-to-miss-four-races-to-fit-budget-cap/

Regarding the Hamilton vs Magnusson incident, from this view I don't really see any failt in Hamilton, his steering wheel was following the corner the whole time, he did not turn into Magnussen, while Magnussen cut it too close to Hamilton in the corner without having his car ahead of Hamilton's yet and had plenty of space on the outside to avoid touching, seems like he risked it too much and a little understeer by the Merc caused the collision, I'd call it a racing incident personally, and Hamilton was least to blame of the two imo  you could argue that Hamilton let the car drift outwards ever so slightly to push Magnussen wide and cancel his overtake attempt but that would be pure conjecture and deserves the benefit of the doubt without hard proof, bottom line is Hamilton was ahead at the apex and in the interior and Magnussen had plenty of space on the outside to avoid colliding. Just my opinion thoigh

https://twitter.com/i/status/1528484596202889216

JoeRockhead:

Always an excuse for when he doesn't do well, that's for sure. 

Race highlights don't know every detail.

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Great comment on Monaco:

 "Like riding a bike around your living room".  Nelson Piquet.

It is time to retire this race - comments????

I think they should've retired it years ago. Cars are too big.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/aston-martin-two-concepts-red-bull/10310370/

Pink Mercedes turned into a green Red Bull. Or could it be a blue Aston instead?

Aston started a split concept development long before any ex-Red Bull employee come onboard, FIA already seen all the data from Aston to clear them from any wrong doing. Could it be that Red Bull got word on the B spec car from Aston and that inspired what Newey did to the RB18? Maybe those ex-Red Bull employees were double agents and were spying for Red Bull?

Or was it a mere coincidence that both has similar sidepod concept? Might even be a shock to the ex Red Bull personal when they arrived at Aston and see the B spec concept look eerily similar to the RB18. 

Not unheard of to have 2 different concepts. Mercedes did it, their initial wide sidepod car looks and feels real, they must have spent time working on that and it's not just a facade. 

Carlos from Spain:

Regarding the Hamilton vs Magnusson incident, from this view I don't really see any failt in Hamilton, his steering wheel was following the corner the whole time, he did not turn into Magnussen, while Magnussen cut it too close to Hamilton in the corner without having his car ahead of Hamilton's yet and had plenty of space on the outside to avoid touching, seems like he risked it too much and a little understeer by the Merc caused the collision, I'd call it a racing incident personally, and Hamilton was least to blame of the two imo  you could argue that Hamilton let the car drift outwards ever so slightly to push Magnussen wide and cancel his overtake attempt but that would be pure conjecture and deserves the benefit of the doubt without hard proof, bottom line is Hamilton was ahead at the apex and in the interior and Magnussen had plenty of space on the outside to avoid colliding. Just my opinion thoigh

https://twitter.com/i/status/1528484596202889216

Even K-Mag himself cleared Hamilton of any fault after. His initial radio message to the pits were only because it was 'in the heat of the moment'.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/magnussen-hamilton-f1-radio-message-was-in-the-heat-of-the-moment/10309443/

You weren't known for a Hamilton supporter yet you wrote what you wrote, that speaks volumes. But people will see what they wanted to see in any case. 
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watt:

Great comment on Monaco:

 "Like riding a bike around your living room".  Nelson Piquet.

It is time to retire this race - comments????

I'm saying no, mostly because of the nostalgia. 

Whoopsy:

Ferdie:

Whoopsy:

Unlike last year, where the stewards had decided the inside car will automatically be in the wrong, this year they are looking at all angles and intends before making judgements. A breath of fresh air to be honest. 

There is also a new rule to leave at least one car width to the opponent...

Hamilton has always pushed the outside opponent off track, that is something of a "signature move" of him. So after all, would he had left more room to Magnussen, he might've lost the position but, in that case, just one and not 14...

Last I check, K-Mag had almost half a track to his left, so Hamilton definitely left more than a car's width for sure. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Hence why the stewards deemed it and racing incident and be done with it.

Regardless, people see what they wanted to see. 

That first sentence wasn't directed at the MAG-HAM incident, just adding to the changes for this year. 

Well, I see what Hamilton has done in the past. It's in line with Senna´s philosophy that has been so well described by Brundle in the Top Gear special, in that he leaves his opponents only the options to back off or crash. Hamilton is similar in that he leaves anybody trying to pass him on the outside only the same two options. It's a philosophy that is perfectly reasonable in F1, there is nothing wrong with it. As I've said before, Hamilton has the talent to tread that fine line between reasonable and unreasonable actions on track.