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Re: Cayman in RS Magazine - Carlos FS :)
What is the credilibilte. What does that mean really(credibility)?
So basically this mag put some of the great drawings made on rennteam.com and put em there.
Porsche should take some of these pics seriously, they are beautiful.
P.s. does the credibilite mean like how close it is to what its gonna look like or the probablitiy
So basically this mag put some of the great drawings made on rennteam.com and put em there.
Porsche should take some of these pics seriously, they are beautiful.
P.s. does the credibilite mean like how close it is to what its gonna look like or the probablitiy
Apr 12, 2005 3:21:21 AM
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Re: Cayman in RS Magazine - Carlos FS :)
Wow it's so cool!
I'd love to see my own thing being published in a car magazine! What's sad is that they only give credit to Rennteam and not the person who did it.
I guess they should ask first and contact the website to get the authorisation and the give the credit to the right person.
Anyway, it's WOW. Still can't believe it either
I'd love to see my own thing being published in a car magazine! What's sad is that they only give credit to Rennteam and not the person who did it.
I guess they should ask first and contact the website to get the authorisation and the give the credit to the right person.
Anyway, it's WOW. Still can't believe it either
Apr 12, 2005 10:59:32 AM
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Great find Rami, thanks!!
They cut out my signatures but at least the gave credit to Rennteam
Hi Carlos,
I find that outrageous really. They just basically stole your stuff
You should contact them and ask for some money...
Apr 12, 2005 11:59:34 AM
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It would have been nice to see Carlos's sig on the picture indeed. I didn't post this scan to start a licensing riot or anything. I don't think Carlos cares too much about that tho, tell me if I'm wrong C!
I would find it kind of an adrenaline rush to see any of my ideas of how a car should look like in a Porsche magazine
I would find it kind of an adrenaline rush to see any of my ideas of how a car should look like in a Porsche magazine
Apr 12, 2005 12:20:37 PM
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Re: Cayman in RS Magazine - Carlos FS :)
No problem really, as long as they gave credit to Rennteam. I don't think they did it on purpose since they left other sigs in but I don't like to ruin the pictures for everybody by putting my name right on the middle all over the car or too close to it. So I always put them on a corner which are easily cut out when cropped for publishing, and I think its what happened, its no big deal though I would of liked to see the sig. But as long as the name Rennteam its OK in my book.
And thanks again Rami for posting, it was nice to see the "GTS" in a Porsche magazine!! very cool, thanks! 
maybe Porsche can take a hint and build a GT3RS like Boxster/Cayman! would be a killer!
And thanks again Rami for posting, it was nice to see the "GTS" in a Porsche magazine!! very cool, thanks!
maybe Porsche can take a hint and build a GT3RS like Boxster/Cayman! would be a killer!
Re: Cayman in RS Magazine - Carlos FS :)
Now the question is, guys: for how much do we sue them?
Any good lawyer here?
To be serious: I'm proud. But Carlos posted the pictures only because he wanted to start an interesting discussion, not because he wanted to suggest that Porsche produces this thing for real. So the whole "probability" stuff in the magazine is a bit...well...weird.
Any good lawyer here?
To be serious: I'm proud. But Carlos posted the pictures only because he wanted to start an interesting discussion, not because he wanted to suggest that Porsche produces this thing for real. So the whole "probability" stuff in the magazine is a bit...well...weird.
Apr 12, 2005 3:11:56 PM
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RC said:
But Carlos posted the pictures only because he wanted to start an interesting discussion, not because he wanted to suggest that Porsche produces this thing for real.....
That is not true - Carlos wants this car just like the rest of
Right Carlos ? Porsche just put this car on the street and spend some of the money the company is making on other products, it will not be cheap to produce with the gt3 engine, carbonfiber parts etc etc....YEEAAHA
Re: Cayman in RS Magazine - Carlos FS :)
Note that the full paper is on 4 pages. The two photos I posted on Rennteam under the title 'smoking Cayman' are in this paper as well.One photo, showing the car from the back with smoke is not modified at all, i.e. is showing the rennteam logo and my user name dg911. The other one, in fact just below Carlos' GTS is heavily modified (no more font,no smoke,no rennteam logo) and therefore difficult to identify.
Re: Cayman in RS Magazine - Carlos FS :)
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To be serious: I'm proud. But Carlos posted the pictures only because he wanted to start an interesting discussion, not because he wanted to suggest that Porsche produces this thing for real. So the whole "probability" stuff in the magazine is a bit...well...weird.
To be honest, if they would decide to build something simular to the CFS Cayman GTS I would order it right away! I still find it a truly remarkable photoshop. Once again an awesome job Carlos
Apr 13, 2005 3:32:55 AM
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///AMG Mercedes said:
Just by chance browsing through my dictionary, did you guys know what word is listed directly below "Cayenne"? Yep, "Cayman!". So the new Porsche saloon will probably be.....the next word down....
Very interesting indeed
Apr 13, 2005 7:12:18 AM
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Apr 13, 2005 4:53:29 PM
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Re: Cayman in RS Magazine - Carlos FS :)
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So what is the next word down...?
Cayuga (Iroquois Indian of New York state)
and then
Cayuse (an Indian people of Washington/Oregon area. Also, a native range horse. I think Roy Rogers sang of the cayuse horse in his "Don't Fence Me In" song.
next is C battery so let's hope the're done introducing new models before we hit that.
What am I? Chopped designer liver?
What the hell!?!?!
I need to sue these guys. Think Ill send them a bill for making money on our work.
I especially need to sue them for thinking my designs have no chance of becoming reality.!!!! French bastards!
And I need to sue all you guys for not mentioning my strokes of genious. My milestonian designs! My legacy to human kind...
Get that lawyer.
Seriously. Had this been in Denmark, they would have a big bill to pay.
RC? You friends with this magazine?
I need to sue these guys. Think Ill send them a bill for making money on our work.
I especially need to sue them for thinking my designs have no chance of becoming reality.!!!! French bastards!
And I need to sue all you guys for not mentioning my strokes of genious. My milestonian designs! My legacy to human kind...
Get that lawyer.
Seriously. Had this been in Denmark, they would have a big bill to pay.
RC? You friends with this magazine?
Re: What am I? Chopped designer liver?
Dr. Phil, I mentioned on another thread that I really like your drawings especially the Stretch RS version of the cayman and the clubsport for that matter. I was thinking that they should make the 911 midengine like you did in that green car you drew, it looks very good. Just thought I would give you some credit for that great work.
Re: What am I? Chopped designer liver?
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Just thought I would give you some credit for that great work.
I thank thee, sire
I'm just a bit ticked about this.
In essence they take our work and use it for commercial purposes. They make money (spy shots and designs sell magazines) on our work without asking us if it's ok.
I think they hope we all react like some do: "Wow! Somebody printed our Rennteam work! I'm proud". Well, I get things printed and published for a living, so I'm not that impressed or thankful.
And I know that violating somebody's copyright is a bad thing.
What do you guys think?
Is this ok? can you just pick anything off of the internet without asking and make a buck on it?
Let me hear your thoughts.
Re: What am I? Chopped designer liver?
I would draw a distinction between use that "makes a buck" and non-profit use. You frequently find postings on Rennteam of spy photos and press releases that originate elsewhere, but, no one profits from that use. Rennteam is not for profit and is commercial free. I think this sort of use by a non-profit group is generally OK as long as proper credit is given. Even here there are problem areas though so you have to be careful.
When a commercial organization uses someone else's work though, they profit from that use. This seems more wrong to me, and more legally wrong as well I think. Should it matter that the original work was not published for profit? These are all messy areas and the law is not always in agreement with what seems ethically right.
When a commercial organization uses someone else's work though, they profit from that use. This seems more wrong to me, and more legally wrong as well I think. Should it matter that the original work was not published for profit? These are all messy areas and the law is not always in agreement with what seems ethically right.
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