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    Re: [2021] Formula 1

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    Big week for F1.

    Sir Frank Williams passed away. The last great privateer. His FW15C is still considered to be the most technologically advanced race car there is. 

    Saudi GP. Driver Championship can be wrapped up here, if Max wins.

    Brand new circuit, no team has any data on it, except Red Bull. Sort of. They had a demo run.  

    Main topic will be Hamilton's 'fresh' engine from Brazil. Can Red Bull get their flexy flappy rear wing fix in order to run the low drag wing at Saudi? Or even the media drag wing? IF they had no choice but to run the high drag wing, then the table will be tilted to Mercedes' favour. 

    Funny how Horner is still all talk with no action about the allegedly illegal Mercedes wing. Could it be that there is really nothing to it and Horner wasted all his time staring at nothing? Red Bull is universally accepted as the greyest team. They love running in between the lines and knows all the tricks and stuff. Yet they can't even come up with something like what they did to Ferrari in 2018. 

    Secondary topic will be will Max pull an Alain Prost. Max is trying to win his first championship. The objective is extremely simple. He ether needs to win one of the two remaining races, or he could prevent Hamilton from scoring any points. What would Max do? Will he be a gentleman and race Hamilton for real and fair? Or will he just crash out Hamilton two races in a roll and be done with it? FIA aren't going to do anything to penalize Max, we have seen that played out all season. He literally got a license to crash. Now if Max takes out Hamilton this race, all he needed to do next race would be to just finish one place behind Hamilton next race and he is champion. Hamilton needed to score 9 more points than Max to win. We know the FIA won't issue a race ban to Max this close to the end, for fear of 'influencing' the outcome. What can they do? Most likely will be a token 3 place grid drop or say a 10 second time penalty if indeed Max taking out Hamilton. 

    Ferrari looks to have 3rd place locked up for good over McLaren, unless Norris AND Ricciardo can do something heroic in the lat two races. Same with Alpine over Alpha Tauri for 5th.  It looks to be a flowing circuit and I think Alonso could do well here, these kind of circuits is right up his alley. 

    Haas is certainly to ended up with no points, and Aston is stuck at a distance 7th. They need a better driver to pair with Vettel. Jr's experiment is done. 

    Williams and Alfa Romeo are also set for 8th and 9th. 

    Racing at Saudi also means the human rights issue will be brought up, what would Seb and Hamilton think of and bring up this weekend

     

     

     

     

     


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    Topspeed:

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    You just got to love the look on Ricciardo's face.


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    kudryavchik:

    Whoopsy, every driver is a product of its generation. 

    You can take the best drivers of 30s - Rosemeyer, Carac, Nuvolari, Stuck; 50s - Fangio, Moss, Hawthorn; 60- Clark, Hill, Gendebien; 70- Ickx, Lauda, Andretti; 80- Prost, Bellof, Senna and etc

    All of them incomparable as a personality - different generations and in mastership - the cars being so much different that racing was a different discipline. The guys that were good in 50s would never win in 80s and vice versa.

    Schummi, Kimi and Alonso are very different to modern crying Hamilton and Vettel. First 3 are much more interesting and all round more deeply developed personalities to me than the late 2.

    About Hamilton - he is a great driver of course, they way he searches the motivation so long is exceptional, but to me he represents the worst from the current generation - lack of deep knowledge and propaganda of shit like lgbt and blm. I am liberal who is for the fair rights for all, but this guy is too much active in racism (staying on the knee) where the people who never were the slave owners must stay one the knee in front of those uneducated criminals who never were slaves. Socialism propaganda, save the planet and other crap. In 30s such a personality would be very efficient to promote nazism. Whats interesting the guys like Rosemeyer and Carac were never the propagandist ones:)

    I hope that the young people, that represent the next generation will not follow the ham route. My imho


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    Here, here!  Well said.  and save the planet drive an F1.


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    watt:
    kudryavchik:

    Whoopsy, every driver is a product of its generation. 

    You can take the best drivers of 30s - Rosemeyer, Carac, Nuvolari, Stuck; 50s - Fangio, Moss, Hawthorn; 60- Clark, Hill, Gendebien; 70- Ickx, Lauda, Andretti; 80- Prost, Bellof, Senna and etc

    All of them incomparable as a personality - different generations and in mastership - the cars being so much different that racing was a different discipline. The guys that were good in 50s would never win in 80s and vice versa.

    Schummi, Kimi and Alonso are very different to modern crying Hamilton and Vettel. First 3 are much more interesting and all round more deeply developed personalities to me than the late 2.

    About Hamilton - he is a great driver of course, they way he searches the motivation so long is exceptional, but to me he represents the worst from the current generation - lack of deep knowledge and propaganda of shit like lgbt and blm. I am liberal who is for the fair rights for all, but this guy is too much active in racism (staying on the knee) where the people who never were the slave owners must stay one the knee in front of those uneducated criminals who never were slaves. Socialism propaganda, save the planet and other crap. In 30s such a personality would be very efficient to promote nazism. Whats interesting the guys like Rosemeyer and Carac were never the propagandist ones:)

    I hope that the young people, that represent the next generation will not follow the ham route. My imho


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    Here, here!  Well said.  and save the planet drive an F1.

    Smiley 21 Well written assessment.


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    I am so anti "wokeness" that it is beyond maddening what is going on.

    But with that said... if you just look at the racial abuse that was directed toward Hamilton after the Silverstone incident, versus the critisism of Max after Sao Paulo, the tone was very different.  It would be hard to argue that race is not still an issue.  The way Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho and Bukayo Saka were treated after the English Football squad loss.  This is live issue for them and if they want to use the their platform to speak about issues that affect them.  Who I am to say they shouldn't.


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    kudryavchik:

    About Hamilton - he is a great driver of course, they way he searches the motivation so long is exceptional, but to me he represents the worst from the current generation - lack of deep knowledge and propaganda of shit like lgbt and blm. I am liberal who is for the fair rights for all, but this guy is too much active in racism (staying on the knee) where the people who never were the slave owners must stay one the knee in front of those uneducated criminals who never were slaves. Socialism propaganda, save the planet and other crap. In 30s such a personality would be very efficient to promote nazism. Whats interesting the guys like Rosemeyer and Carac were never the propagandist ones:)

    Shit?


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    watt:
    kudryavchik:

    Whoopsy, every driver is a product of its generation. 

    You can take the best drivers of 30s - Rosemeyer, Carac, Nuvolari, Stuck; 50s - Fangio, Moss, Hawthorn; 60- Clark, Hill, Gendebien; 70- Ickx, Lauda, Andretti; 80- Prost, Bellof, Senna and etc

    All of them incomparable as a personality - different generations and in mastership - the cars being so much different that racing was a different discipline. The guys that were good in 50s would never win in 80s and vice versa.

    Schummi, Kimi and Alonso are very different to modern crying Hamilton and Vettel. First 3 are much more interesting and all round more deeply developed personalities to me than the late 2.

    About Hamilton - he is a great driver of course, they way he searches the motivation so long is exceptional, but to me he represents the worst from the current generation - lack of deep knowledge and propaganda of shit like lgbt and blm. I am liberal who is for the fair rights for all, but this guy is too much active in racism (staying on the knee) where the people who never were the slave owners must stay one the knee in front of those uneducated criminals who never were slaves. Socialism propaganda, save the planet and other crap. In 30s such a personality would be very efficient to promote nazism. Whats interesting the guys like Rosemeyer and Carac were never the propagandist ones:)

    I hope that the young people, that represent the next generation will not follow the ham route. My imho


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    Here, here!  Well said.  and save the planet drive an F1.

    Yep))) save trees, save bees, save whales, save snaiilllzzz))) we race as oneSmiley


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    watt:
    kudryavchik:

    Whoopsy, every driver is a product of its generation. 

    You can take the best drivers of 30s - Rosemeyer, Carac, Nuvolari, Stuck; 50s - Fangio, Moss, Hawthorn; 60- Clark, Hill, Gendebien; 70- Ickx, Lauda, Andretti; 80- Prost, Bellof, Senna and etc

    All of them incomparable as a personality - different generations and in mastership - the cars being so much different that racing was a different discipline. The guys that were good in 50s would never win in 80s and vice versa.

    Schummi, Kimi and Alonso are very different to modern crying Hamilton and Vettel. First 3 are much more interesting and all round more deeply developed personalities to me than the late 2.

    About Hamilton - he is a great driver of course, they way he searches the motivation so long is exceptional, but to me he represents the worst from the current generation - lack of deep knowledge and propaganda of shit like lgbt and blm. I am liberal who is for the fair rights for all, but this guy is too much active in racism (staying on the knee) where the people who never were the slave owners must stay one the knee in front of those uneducated criminals who never were slaves. Socialism propaganda, save the planet and other crap. In 30s such a personality would be very efficient to promote nazism. Whats interesting the guys like Rosemeyer and Carac were never the propagandist ones:)

    I hope that the young people, that represent the next generation will not follow the ham route. My imho


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    Here, here!  Well said.  and save the planet drive an F1.

    Smiley 21 Well written assessment.

    Thx!Smiley


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    Enmanuel:
    kudryavchik:

    About Hamilton - he is a great driver of course, they way he searches the motivation so long is exceptional, but to me he represents the worst from the current generation - lack of deep knowledge and propaganda of shit like lgbt and blm. I am liberal who is for the fair rights for all, but this guy is too much active in racism (staying on the knee) where the people who never were the slave owners must stay one the knee in front of those uneducated criminals who never were slaves. Socialism propaganda, save the planet and other crap. In 30s such a personality would be very efficient to promote nazism. Whats interesting the guys like Rosemeyer and Carac were never the propagandist ones:)

    Shit?

    BLM is total shit and LGBT propaganda too. First is total racist, second... I even dont know. In developed countries nobody cares who and what makes at home. I have nice friends who are non-traditional, we have no problem, its their live, I have mine, but now its pure propaganda, too much...

    About BLM as I have written earlier, policeman killed the rapist and drugdealer, WTF everybody stay on the knee? I am even silent that these who stay on the knee were never the slave owners, and vice versa, those to whom they stay were never slaves. I am, being a jew, maybe should put on the knees the half of europeans? Its simple Craziness...

    We go further, Apple has opened the campus for afroamericans - are you sure it is about fair rights, or it looks more like the rear places of the bus in the US in 50's and 60's, i.e. segregation

    Both of these orgs, instead of support, simply increase the level of aggression, you know the Newton law - the more the action the more the counter action. I think I was quite detailed to explain why it is Shit. 


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    kudryavchik:
    Enmanuel:
    kudryavchik:

    About Hamilton - he is a great driver of course, they way he searches the motivation so long is exceptional, but to me he represents the worst from the current generation - lack of deep knowledge and propaganda of shit like lgbt and blm. I am liberal who is for the fair rights for all, but this guy is too much active in racism (staying on the knee) where the people who never were the slave owners must stay one the knee in front of those uneducated criminals who never were slaves. Socialism propaganda, save the planet and other crap. In 30s such a personality would be very efficient to promote nazism. Whats interesting the guys like Rosemeyer and Carac were never the propagandist ones:)

    Shit?

    BLM is total shit and LGBT propaganda too. First is total racist, second... I even dont know. In developed countries nobody cares who and what makes at home. I have nice friends who are non-traditional, we have no problem, its their live, I have mine, but now its pure propaganda, too much...

    About BLM as I have written earlier, policeman killed the rapist and drugdealer, WTF everybody stay on the knee? I am even silent that these who stay on the knee were never the slave owners, and vice versa, those to whom they stay were never slaves. I am, being a jew, maybe should put on the knees the half of europeans? Its simple Craziness...

    We go further, Apple has opened the campus for afroamericans - are you sure it is about fair rights, or it looks more like the rear places of the bus in the US in 50's and 60's, i.e. segregation

    Both of these orgs, instead of support, simply increase the level of aggression, you know the Newton law - the more the action the more the counter action. I think I was quite detailed to explain why it is Shit. 

    So, just to be clear, your issue is how some of the groups involved with the BLM and LGBT movements have politicized and exploited the situations. Not with the importance of racial equality or sexuality acceptance?


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    thuggy:

    I am so anti "wokeness" that it is beyond maddening what is going on.

    But with that said... if you just look at the racial abuse that was directed toward Hamilton after the Silverstone incident, versus the critisism of Max after Sao Paulo, the tone was very different.  It would be hard to argue that race is not still an issue.  The way Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho and Bukayo Saka were treated after the English Football squad loss.  This is live issue for them and if they want to use the their platform to speak about issues that affect them.  Who I am to say they shouldn't.

    The more the action the more the counter action. And you never can be safe of some real racist idiots. But the more people will stay on the knees and will be criticized, when not, the more aggression will get out. Simply the matter of time. The less the empty talk about racism, the more comfortable people live. For everything else there is the law.


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    Ok boomer.


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    Enmanuel:
    kudryavchik:
    Enmanuel:
    kudryavchik:

    About Hamilton - he is a great driver of course, they way he searches the motivation so long is exceptional, but to me he represents the worst from the current generation - lack of deep knowledge and propaganda of shit like lgbt and blm. I am liberal who is for the fair rights for all, but this guy is too much active in racism (staying on the knee) where the people who never were the slave owners must stay one the knee in front of those uneducated criminals who never were slaves. Socialism propaganda, save the planet and other crap. In 30s such a personality would be very efficient to promote nazism. Whats interesting the guys like Rosemeyer and Carac were never the propagandist ones:)

    Shit?

    BLM is total shit and LGBT propaganda too. First is total racist, second... I even dont know. In developed countries nobody cares who and what makes at home. I have nice friends who are non-traditional, we have no problem, its their live, I have mine, but now its pure propaganda, too much...

    About BLM as I have written earlier, policeman killed the rapist and drugdealer, WTF everybody stay on the knee? I am even silent that these who stay on the knee were never the slave owners, and vice versa, those to whom they stay were never slaves. I am, being a jew, maybe should put on the knees the half of europeans? Its simple Craziness...

    We go further, Apple has opened the campus for afroamericans - are you sure it is about fair rights, or it looks more like the rear places of the bus in the US in 50's and 60's, i.e. segregation

    Both of these orgs, instead of support, simply increase the level of aggression, you know the Newton law - the more the action the more the counter action. I think I was quite detailed to explain why it is Shit. 

    So, just to be clear, your issue is how some of the groups involved with the BLM and LGBT movements have politicized and exploited the situations. Not with the importance of racial equality or sexuality acceptance?

    We go too offtopic :-) 

    Answering - BLM and LGBT are politicized and exploit the situation, not the groups involved, but these orgs as a whole. The best way to increase the importance of racial equality and sexuality acceptance is to stop to promote it. It's an empty topic in developed countries. What is the freedom? The freedom is to do everything you want without passing the freedom border of the other person. Making people stay on the knee (and criticize them when they dont) and make them say how they love and support LGBT (when they have never thought about it, or maybe they even dont love and support it (why MUST they) but they are simply silent about it, because they dont pass the border of the freedom of others) passes the border of freedom. I.E. making these groups not different from those who are openly racist or terrorize non traditional persons.


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    Ok.


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    Enmanuel:

    Ok.

    I thought it was clear from the previous messages)) 


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    kudryavchik:
    Enmanuel:

    Ok.

    I thought it was clear from the previous messages)) 

    I just find it interesting how much you've typed about this, when your stance is that the less we talk about it the better. 


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    It started to be the problem))) to much action, so I have counter acted:-) If I want to see people on knees, I would watch the Papa travel somewhere, not F1


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    spudgun:

    Ok boomer.

    That post is the dumbest I’ve read in a long time. Thank you 🥂Smiley


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    kudryavchik:

    It started to be the problem))) to much action, so I have counter acted:-) If I want to see people on knees, I would watch the Papa travel somewhere, not F1.

    I get that. But let's agree that some of the words you used could be considered dismissive of even the positive aspects included in those topics. 


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    Enmanuel:
    kudryavchik:

    It started to be the problem))) to much action, so I have counter acted:-) If I want to see people on knees, I would watch the Papa travel somewhere, not F1.

    I get that. But let's agree that some of the words you used could be considered dismissive of even the positive aspects included in those topics. 

    If you insist, ok Smiley


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    spudgun:

    Ok boomer.

    Smiley


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    It baffles me why someone thinks people are interested in his/her views on BLM and LGBT topics, in an F1 thread. ☠️ 


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    spudgun:

    It baffles me why someone thinks people are interested in his/her views on BLM and LGBT topics, in an F1 thread. ☠️ 

    Because there was only one post and then there was a feedback. Dont be baffled, relax!:) life's good


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    Max practising his special maneuver for Sunday race.

     


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    Lol he will have his elbows W I D E.


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    Brand new circuit, with poor visibility, yet no one bins it in FP1.

    Some close calls but nothing major. 

    about 3 seconds a lap from Hamilton down to Mazepin. 

    For all the talks from Horner about how much faster the Mercedes are, didn't seems to be the case, Max is really right up there with the Mercedes. The Red Bull cars aren't slow. But as expected, Red Bull have tilted the car completely toward's Max's driving style in order to maximizes Max's chances to win, Perez's times are suffering as a result. 

    Watching the on-boards, man it's SCARY going flat-out around the corners without knowing what's on the other side. This circuit will be heavily relying on the so-called rubbish marshals by Horner, to keep the drivers safe. 

    Honestly, during Q3, EVERYONE will be fighting to go out first to set a time, just like how Hamilton did at Qatar. Chances of incidents is just too great. 

    And just as I am typing this, Leclerc caused a red flag in FP2. Heavy impact.

     

     


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    Indeed. I dislike this circuit. It seems very dangerous!

    I bet there will be a Safety Car during the race. Or many...

    Onboard from Max: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJnW0J95_Rs

     

     


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    Topspeed:

    Indeed. I dislike this circuit. It seems very dangerous!

    I bet there will be a Safety Car during the race. Or many...

    Onboard from Max: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJnW0J95_Rs

     

     

    Agreed. It is like driving in a concrete fog. You never see anything in time to stop if something is blocking your way.   Flags and warnings will be critical. 


     
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