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    F430 CS spotted?

    This is said to be the first spy shot of an upcoming F430 Challenge Stradale:

    Re: F430 CS spotted?

    It's an old picture of the 430. I'm sure the boys at maranello have their hands full with the 575 replacement right now.

    Re: F430 CS spotted?

    if there is coming a 430CS at all, I think it will be three years further from now.

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    Patriek (jennyz) said:
    if there is coming a 430CS at all, I think it will be three years further from now.


    Yeah, I think so. Not before 2007...

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    Maybe it's a pic of the F430 Challenge car, notice the exhaust tips

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    Maybe, I heard a rumor that the F430 Challenge (not the Challenge Stradale version which will be later on) coming out in 4 months with 530HP (besides the different suspensions, exhausts, reduced weight, etc)

    Re: F430 CS spotted?

    I just talked to some friends working for F. They are confirming Carlos rumor.

    F wants to go quickly to the high efficient (regarding earn of money) cars in the F430 segment. First step was to launch the Spider soon after the F430, second will be the CS. Also - they propably need the CS for the Clubsport.

    It could be that they bring the CS already this year, latest spring next!

    L@rs

    .... lets wait for IAA

    Ferrari/ Maserati news

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    Lars996 said:
    I just talked to some friends working for F. They are confirming Carlos rumor.

    F wants to go quickly to the high efficient (regarding earn of money) cars in the F430 segment. First step was to launch the Spider soon after the F430, second will be the CS. Also - they propably need the CS for the Clubsport.

    It could be that they bring the CS already this year, latest spring next!

    [Email]L@rs[/Email]

    .... lets wait for IAA



    Funny you mention that Lars,
    I was on the phone with my Ferrari friend yesterday too, who I'm going to do rally de Paris with this weekend by the way.
    And he mentionned some big changes are expected with Ferrari in the next couple of years.
    Not as big as Maserati though.
    Maser is moving on Porsche, their next model will be a Boxster rival, but I've already written that.
    What is sad is that the next coupe project is currently on hold!
    Weirdly though, the next Spyder is still go, doesn't make sense to me, but...
    As for Ferrari,
    F430 is main model but management is very unhappy with 612 model which as you can imagine makes the biggest margin profit wise by far.
    What happened with the 612 is that it sold well in the first year, bc it was ordered by Ferrari loyals, but what F wanted with that car is gain new clients, and 612 sales have currently stalled
    Seems the clientele for that king of car prefers the Bentley GT or the DB9, shame.

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    "Seems the clientele for that king of car prefers the Bentley GT or the DB9, shame."

    The Bentley and DB9, of course, are far less expensive cars, at least in the US.

    The 430 Challenge car is due, correct? Everyone with whom I've spoken expects them for next year's series. Those of you with inside info please correct me, but wouldn't the safest assumption be that if the car in the pic is in fact a new 430 version, it's the Challenge car?

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    Fanch said:

    What happened with the 612 is that it sold well in the first year, bc it was ordered by Ferrari loyals, but what F wanted with that car is gain new clients, and 612 sales have currently stalled
    Seems the clientele for that king of car prefers the Bentley GT or the DB9, shame.



    The loyalists ( mostly old guys ) see the extreme cab-rearward simple,smooth,phallically retro-styled lines of the 612 evoking childhood memories of the Ferrari street cars of the 50s that the European royalty drove . Younger buyers see a Supra .

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    MKW said:
    The loyalists ( mostly old guys ) see the extreme cab-rearward simple,smooth,phallically retro-styled lines of the 612 evoking childhood memories of the Ferrari street cars of the 50s that the European royalty drove . Younger buyers see a Supra .



    Re: Ferrari/ Maserati news

    Heard a rumor that the coupe is going to be re-worked as a new entry-level Ferrari (Dino?).
    Otherwise, why would they put it on hold, but launch the spider?
    But I don't like the idea of a Ferrari for a 911 money..it would damage the exclusivity of the brand..

    Re: Ferrari/ Maserati news

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    shin said:
    Heard a rumor that the coupe is going to be re-worked as a new entry-level Ferrari (Dino?).
    Otherwise, why would they put it on hold, but launch the spider?
    But I don't like the idea of a Ferrari for a 911 money..it would damage the exclusivity of the brand..


    Don't think that will happen...

    Re: Ferrari/ Maserati news

    Maybe they will put out CS very soon after Challenge car, and try to sell as much and earn as much as they canwith f430 lineup, and then release the 575 replacement for higher segment of buyers and after that a new entry model for newest segment of buyers - that should keep the money roolin' in for that IPO

    Re: F430 CS spotted?

    Could be. It's hard to tell from the photo but the mirrors apear to be black. If so that could be carbon fiber like the 04 CS. I have a Rosso Scuderia/ Black CS . I'm trying to decide on the F430 Spider or see what happens with a 430 CS. I might just keep the 360 CS. I love the car.

    Re: F430 CS spotted?

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    Patriek (jennyz) said:
    if there is coming a 430CS at all, I think it will be three years further from now.



    You may be right. I don't know, I'm not a ferrari employee and I don't have any "friends at ferrari", but, I have seen this picture before.

    http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=13917

    Re: Ferrari/ Maserati news

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    WCH said:
    "Seems the clientele for that king of car prefers the Bentley GT or the DB9, shame."

    The Bentley and DB9, of course, are far less expensive cars, at least in the US.
    ...



    Ferrari cars, especially the 360/430 and 550/575 models are for fun and leisure, there are three main reasons why the 612 doesn't sell that well - by the way, it's my own humble opinion :

    1. it doesn't have the same charming lines or thrilling driving feel than the other two, driving this car for posing reasons is not the same

    2. Ferraris are unfortunately not famous for their safety and some essential feature are missing, therefore you should rather opt for the above mentioned alternatives (or a MB CL coupe)

    3. high-mileage Ferraris are selling very hard, the highest pricetag (sans the Enzo) doesn't help anything!

     
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