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22-jun-2021 12:31:43

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , España; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registrado desde: 09-feb-2003; Reply to: Sidney

Re: 992 GT3

As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly. If the repercussions on the aerodynamics of removing the wing wouldn't bother me or affect me in the use of the car, then I wouldn't be buying a GT3 in the first place

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22-jun-2021 13:55:45

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Estados Unidos; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registrado desde: 21-ago-2002; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: 992 GT3

Carlos from Spain:
As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly.

Both AP and FSW claim there is absolutely no suspension change in the Touring. Also, there has been no mention of a reduction in downforce at the front axle (but I suspect there is). I wonder how much downforce is added when the folding wing is extended on the Touring and I wonder how much downforce is added by the ducktail compared to the Touring wing when not extended.

I'm just curious though - my wing is staying in the original upright location.

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22-jun-2021 14:03:56

steelested: Co-Pilot; Loc: uk , Reino Unido; Posts: 214, Gallery; Registrado desde: 10-ago-2012; Reply to: Grant

Re: 992 GT3

off topic but understand 992 gts launch is tomorrow

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22-jun-2021 14:13:18

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , España; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registrado desde: 09-feb-2003; Reply to: Grant

Re: 992 GT3

Grant:
Carlos from Spain:
As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly.

Both AP and FSW claim there is absolutely no suspension change in the Touring. Also, there has been no mention of a reduction in downforce at the front axle (but I suspect there is). I wonder how much downforce is added when the folding wing is extended on the Touring and I wonder how much downforce is added by the ducktail compared to the Touring wing when not extended.

I'm just curious though - my wing is staying in the original upright location.

If the is rear wing of the GT3 is there for extra downforce I would think there would have to be some suspension tuning for the extra rear load or is the effect of the wing compared to the Touring's carrera spoiler that small?

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22-jun-2021 14:46:21

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , Reino Unido; Posts: 5885, Gallery; Registrado desde: 23-feb-2005; Reply to: steelested

Re: 992 GT3

steelested:
off topic but understand 992 gts launch is tomorrow

Porsche should offer the 992 GTS with a 4.0 litre flat-six engine!

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22-jun-2021 14:50:09

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , Reino Unido; Posts: 5885, Gallery; Registrado desde: 23-feb-2005; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: 992 GT3

Carlos from Spain:
Grant:
Carlos from Spain:
As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly.

Both AP and FSW claim there is absolutely no suspension change in the Touring. Also, there has been no mention of a reduction in downforce at the front axle (but I suspect there is). I wonder how much downforce is added when the folding wing is extended on the Touring and I wonder how much downforce is added by the ducktail compared to the Touring wing when not extended.

I'm just curious though - my wing is staying in the original upright location.

If the is rear wing of the GT3 is there for extra downforce I would think there would have to be some suspension tuning for the extra rear load or is the effect of the wing compared to the Touring's carrera spoiler that small?

There's a rumour that the lower downforce on a 992 GT3 without the rear wing can be offset by fitting rear seats! Smiley

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22-jun-2021 15:13:04

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , Estados Unidos; Posts: 5183, Gallery; Registrado desde: 17-ago-2011; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: 992 GT3

Carlos from Spain:
Grant:
Carlos from Spain:
As much as I don't like the wing in there 992GT3, I would never take it off, only if it's a factory option like the Touring where aerodynamics and suspensions are modified accordingly.

Both AP and FSW claim there is absolutely no suspension change in the Touring. Also, there has been no mention of a reduction in downforce at the front axle (but I suspect there is). I wonder how much downforce is added when the folding wing is extended on the Touring and I wonder how much downforce is added by the ducktail compared to the Touring wing when not extended.

I'm just curious though - my wing is staying in the original upright location.

If the is rear wing of the GT3 is there for extra downforce I would think there would have to be some suspension tuning for the extra rear load or is the effect of the wing compared to the Touring's carrera spoiler that small?

Don't forget that the GT3's aerodynamics are balanced across the front and rear axles. The touring variant front splitter is similarly modified to compensate for less rear downforce. Removing the rear wing of the GT3 shifts the aerodynamic loading forward with a corresponding movement of the center of pressure. That will affect higher speeding handling and braking.

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22-jun-2021 18:58:21

turbolite: Veteran; Loc: Switzerland , Suiza; Posts: 1012, Gallery; Registrado desde: 26-jul-2004; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 992 GT3

It would be interesting to get some data re the aerodynamics of the Touring. It somehow seems strange that there should not be any change in suspension and set up vs the GT3. I also wonder (but can’t find) if there were comments from AP re the 991 Touring generation. The effects should be similar in the 992.

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23-jun-2021 1:25:21

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canadá; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registrado desde: 19-sep-2006; Reply to: turbolite

Re: 992 GT3

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/06/22/2022-porsche-911-gt3-manual-legal-california/

And the manual GT3s will be legal in California now.

Guess it takes publicity highlighting the existing red tape in the California government in order for them to move with time.

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23-jun-2021 14:27:20

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , Reino Unido; Posts: 5885, Gallery; Registrado desde: 23-feb-2005; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: 992 GT3

Porsche 992 GT3 driven on track...

Source: http://www.frozenspeed.com/

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23-jun-2021 15:11:27

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , Estados Unidos; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registrado desde: 11-abr-2002; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: 992 GT3

Whoopsy:
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/06/22/2022-porsche-911-gt3-manual-legal-california/

And the manual GT3s will be legal in California now.

Guess it takes publicity highlighting the existing red tape in the California government in order for them to move with time.

Nick, we eventually get there often ahead of the rest. Smiley

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23-jun-2021 15:47:29

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canadá; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registrado desde: 19-sep-2006; Reply to: nberry

Re: 992 GT3

Haha god knows how many laws and regulations are still in ancient time that politicians can't be bothered to update.

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24-jun-2021 8:14:47

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , Reino Unido; Posts: 5885, Gallery; Registrado desde: 23-feb-2005; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: 992 GT3

Porsche 992 GT3 Touring on road...

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24-jun-2021 9:01:13

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Suiza; Posts: 14174, Gallery; Registrado desde: 11-mar-2005; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

Re: 992 GT3

The painted mouth looks much better then the black plastic on the GT3. I wonder how many GT3 owners will have that part painted as well.

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24-jun-2021 9:28:52

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , España; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registrado desde: 09-feb-2003; Reply to: Gnil

Re: 992 GT3

I find the painted mouth looks much better when in dark colors but worse with light colors for some reason.

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24-jun-2021 9:36:34

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Estados Unidos; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registrado desde: 21-ago-2002; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: 992 GT3

I think the mouth is a pretty awkward part of the design and the flat black hides it better. That part is $625 and looks easy to install for those who want a second version (black plastic for Touring or have it painted to match for Wing)

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24-jun-2021 11:56:25

996FourEss: Veteran; Loc: London , Reino Unido; Posts: 804, Gallery; Registrado desde: 15-ago-2011; Reply to: Grant

Re: 992 GT3

I agree. I think in GT Silver for eg, the car looks better with more black / silver contrast - so carbon roof, and arguably a black mouth would suit it better. In dark colours, less of an issue.

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24-jun-2021 19:29:11

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxemburgo; Posts: 5822, Gallery; Registrado desde: 03-jun-2003; Reply to: 996FourEss

Re: 992 GT3

It actually looks quite good in this video

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24-jun-2021 20:03:55

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , Estados Unidos; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registrado desde: 21-ago-2002; Reply to: Gauss

Re: 992 GT3

That does look nice, but I think Black brake calipers better with those Neodyme wheels...

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24-jun-2021 20:08:57

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Suiza; Posts: 7062, Gallery; Registrado desde: 17-ene-2005; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: 992 GT3

Carlos from Spain:
I find the painted mouth looks much better when in dark colors but worse with light colors for some reason.

Likewise!

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25-jun-2021 1:12:04

Jean: Veteran; Loc: Seoul , Corea del Sur; Posts: 1033, Gallery; Registrado desde: 14-abr-2002; Reply to: Porker

Re: 992 GT3

Currently, placing an order for a Color To Sample GT3, I have a question regarding configuration.

QE1 Storage Package when ordered together with Q1K Full bucket seats will not include the storage net in the passenger footwell. If so, what else does the storage package consist of in terms of luggage compartment?

Does anyone have a clue?

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25-jun-2021 8:48:09

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , Reino Unido; Posts: 5885, Gallery; Registrado desde: 23-feb-2005; Reply to: Grant

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UK dealers receiving early customer allocations of Porsche 992 GT3...

...please stop ordering BLACK WHEELS - as any motoring journalist will tell you - they look terrible in photos! Smiley

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25-jun-2021 9:49:02

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Alemania; Posts: 12681, Gallery; Registrado desde: 11-abr-2002; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

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Boxster Coupe GTS:
UK dealers receiving early customer allocations of Porsche 992 GT3...

Is there one for crayphile? Smiley Smiley Smiley

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25-jun-2021 14:18:18

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Holanda; Posts: 8055, Gallery; Registrado desde: 03-may-2004; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 992 GT3

My god, that grey one looks amazing! First time I really love the design of the 992 GT3, probably because you don't see the nostrils and the mouth-like front bumper feature is toned down as well...

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25-jun-2021 19:43:03

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , Reino Unido; Posts: 5885, Gallery; Registrado desde: 23-feb-2005; Reply to: Joost

Re: 992 GT3

A few customers asked if the suspension on the Porsche 992 GT3 is adjusted for the 992 GT3 Touring...

...are you sure? Smiley

...so much for fine-tuning the suspension to match the aerodynamics! It sounds like it must be ok with a ducktail too! Smiley

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25-jun-2021 19:45:59

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , Reino Unido; Posts: 5885, Gallery; Registrado desde: 23-feb-2005; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

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Porsche 992 GT3 with Martini stripes...

Smiley

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25-jun-2021 20:37:26

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , Reino Unido; Posts: 5885, Gallery; Registrado desde: 23-feb-2005; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

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Porsche 992 GT3 in dark blue...

...great wheels! Smiley

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25-jun-2021 21:10:42

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , Estados Unidos; Posts: 8846, Gallery; Registrado desde: 07-mar-2008; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

Re: 992 GT3

Boxster Coupe GTS:
Porsche 992 GT3 with Martini stripes...

If Porker's old olive got Martini stripes, would that make it a dirty martini? Smiley

Sorry, it's friday. I'll see myself out now.

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25-jun-2021 21:39:37

Gladstone: Expert; Loc: Kansas City, MO , Estados Unidos; Posts: 1813, Gallery; Registrado desde: 27-feb-2008; Reply to: Enmanuel

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That sounds a lot like "dad" humor. I still enjoy it though.

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26-jun-2021 5:11:17

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Suiza; Posts: 7062, Gallery; Registrado desde: 17-ene-2005; Reply to: Enmanuel

Re: 992 GT3

Enmanuel:
Boxster Coupe GTS:
Porsche 992 GT3 with Martini stripes...

If Porker's old olive got Martini stripes, would that make it a dirty martini?

Sorry, it's friday. I'll see myself out now.

🤣

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