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    Re: Hummer... rises again as EV

    Let's be honest here (and I am a German car guy, I love quality, not sure I would have gotten myself a Lambo if Audi wouldn't be behind it): What Tesla and now GM and others do in the US is highly commendable and impressive. They are pioneers in the field in my opinion. The build quality and/or finish may not always be top notch but these cars represent a vision, a new mobility, the next decade, surely the next century.

    German car makers always needed the pressure from Tesla and Co. to just start making EVs. They are getting better and I am pretty sure that at some point, German car makers will offer top quality high performance EVs and of course also EVs in the lower performance and price level.

    Where is Mercedes with a EV G-class? Where is Volkswagen with an EV pickup truck? Just a few examples.

     


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    General Motors has a long history of producing vehicles lacking in that final percentage of refinement and introducing a vehicle that barely exists outside of its cyberspace is what leads to problems. The Hummer EV debut is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to draw attention away from the Tesla Cybertruck, Ravian, and Ford F-150 EV.  This song was played before. 


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    CGX car nut:

    General Motors has a long history of producing vehicles lacking in that final percentage of refinement and introducing a vehicle that barely exists outside of its cyberspace is what leads to problems. The Hummer EV debut is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to draw attention away from the Tesla Cybertruck, Ravian, and Ford F-150 EV.  This song was played before. 

    Maybe, you could be right but I still find these projects to be highly refreshing. In Europe, we get only boring cars, mostly. Not talking about expensive supercars and stuff like that.


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    GMC Hummer EV SUV

     

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    Love the new Hummer... tio be exact the SUV version... this is really a sexy SUV... something that comes into consideration angel


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    Shaich:

    Love the new Hummer... tio be exact the SUV version... this is really a sexy SUV... something that comes into consideration angel

    Agreed. Such a monster could convince me to go EV. Smiley Interesting product, probably not suited for Germany (even as an EV, people here will hate this thing). Smiley


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    The Hummer SUV has less horsepower than the Hummer EV pickup truck because the SUV is shorter.  A shorter vehicle means the battery pack is smaller, so horsepower is reduced.  This is something to consider about EVs.  Size matters in terms of horsepower and performance.  The bigger the battery, the greater the horsepower rating.  The Hummer SUV is scheduled for introduction in the States in 2023.  While the concept is interesting, the interior appears low rent for the price.  


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    RC:
    Shaich:

    Love the new Hummer... tio be exact the SUV version... this is really a sexy SUV... something that comes into consideration angel

    Agreed. Such a monster could convince me to go EV. Smiley Interesting product, probably not suited for Germany (even as an EV, people here will hate this thing). Smiley

    I agree, it is not suited for Germany nor for Austria... but TBH who cares, ppl who want to hate will do it anyway, this car is just amazing and its even green Smiley. The only thing that would make it difficult is finding parking spots in Vienna city center... Smiley


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    Shaich:
    TBH who cares, ppl who want to hate will do it anyway, this car is just amazing and its even green Smiley

    Just heard a talk from  green anti SUV politicians  . Now  they want to ban big EV vehicles as they say that the heavier the vehicle, the more it has impacted on the environment . It will never stop Smiley


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    ................................F150 | Bronco 2door | Bronco 4door | Hummer EV | Hummer EV SUV
    ................Height:
    >75.6" |||||||| 71.9" |||||||| |||||||| 73.0" |||||||| ||||||| 81.1" |||||||| ||||||||| 80.9" |||||||||
    ..................Width :
    79.9" |||||||| 75.9" |||||||| |||||||| 75.9 " |||||||| ||||||| 86.7" ||||||| ||||||||| 86.5" |||||||||
    Width w/ mirrors:
    95.7" |||||||| 86.2" ||||||| |||||||| 86.2" |||||||| ||||||| 93.7" ||||||| ||||||||| 93.7" |||||||||
    ..............Lenght:
    >209.1" ||||||| 173.7" |||||| ||||||| 189.4" ||||||| |||||| 216.8" ||||| |||||||| 196.8"(/w spare 206.7")


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    Gnil:
    Shaich:
    TBH who cares, ppl who want to hate will do it anyway, this car is just amazing and its even green Smiley

    Just heard a talk from  green anti SUV politicians  . Now  they want to ban big EV vehicles as they say that the heavier the vehicle, the more it has impacted on the environment . It will never stop Smiley

    This is the type of thinking, or lack thereof, that has made small vehicles prohibitively expensive with the transition to EVs.  There's plenty of insanity in the States but nothing compares with the machinations of the unelected bureaucrats running Europe.  


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    Gnil:
    Shaich:
    TBH who cares, ppl who want to hate will do it anyway, this car is just amazing and its even green Smiley

    Just heard a talk from  green anti SUV politicians  . Now  they want to ban big EV vehicles as they say that the heavier the vehicle, the more it has impacted on the environment . It will never stop Smiley

    epic - maybe somebody tell him/her the weight of EV's.....


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    Gnil:
    Shaich:
    TBH who cares, ppl who want to hate will do it anyway, this car is just amazing and its even green Smiley

    Just heard a talk from  green anti SUV politicians  . Now  they want to ban big EV vehicles as they say that the heavier the vehicle, the more it has impacted on the environment . It will never stop Smiley

    Of course not... We all know that this is very often (not always) about wealth, status symbols and envy, not only the environment. 

    Funny: Since many people here perceive my Jeep as an off-roader, I have much less negative comments about my massive 2.5 t Jeep than I had about the GLC 63. Off-roader? OK. Luxury SUV? Not OK. Smiley Two people even pitted me that I got the Jeep..."isn't it much slower and less comfortable than the AMG?". Smiley Smiley


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    It's fun to be pitied for the wrong reasons. smiley


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    Gladstone:

    It's fun to be pitied for the wrong reasons. smiley

    Smiley Smiley


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    Comical article on how General Motors is utilizing Bose noise canceling technology for the Hummer EV to help save weight.  What would that thing weigh with traditional sound dampening materials?  It already weighs in excess of 9,000 pounds. https://www.thedrive.com/tech/41891/the-science-of-silence-inside-the-electric-gmc-hummer


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    Early reviews are relatively positive. 


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    900 pounds?!? Jeez, my house weighs less! Rather than moving the car, wouldn’t it be much easier to keep the car stationary and rotate the earth? 😝


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    Joost:

    900 pounds?!? Jeez, my house weighs less! Rather than moving the car, wouldn’t it be much easier to keep the car stationary and rotate the earth? 😝

    Missed a zero 


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    Joost:

    900 pounds?!? Jeez, my house weighs less! Rather than moving the car, wouldn’t it be much easier to keep the car stationary and rotate the earth? 😝

    200 kWh battery packs are heavy things versus roughly 36 pounds of gasoline with the equivalent energy content.  


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    Equal energy perhaps but the ICE engine only gets about 30% out of all that energy. 


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    Leawood911:

    Equal energy perhaps but the ICE engine only gets about 30% out of all that energy. 


    As long as it gets out enough, I don't care. Smiley


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    Re: Hummer... rises again as EV

    Leawood911:

    Equal energy perhaps but the ICE engine only gets about 30% out of all that energy. 

     

    Taking IV drips is also more efficient than eating solid food, would you be skipping eating from now on also?


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    Whoopsy:
    Leawood911:

    Equal energy perhaps but the ICE engine only gets about 30% out of all that energy. 

     

    Taking IV drips is also more efficient than eating solid food, would you be skipping eating from now on also?

    I can appreciate the sound the car makes, the thrill of how it revs up through the gears, the downshifts of the gearbox, etc...but I have yet to sit behind the wheel of a car and say to myself, man I just love the % of energy conversion in this car, truly lovely...


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    Whoopsy:
    Leawood911:

    Equal energy perhaps but the ICE engine only gets about 30% out of all that energy. 

     

    Taking IV drips is also more efficient than eating solid food, would you be skipping eating from now on also?

    That would severely diminish my potential for contribution here until I get a Porsche Smiley


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    Enmanuel:
    Whoopsy:
    Leawood911:

    Equal energy perhaps but the ICE engine only gets about 30% out of all that energy. 

     

    Taking IV drips is also more efficient than eating solid food, would you be skipping eating from now on also?

    That would severely diminish my potential for contribution here until I get a Porsche Smiley

    But I love the analogies.  The best ones I ever find are from Whoopsy 

    my comment was in relation to the amount of energy in the fuel. It needed some clarification. You are welcome. 
    Yes cars sound fun. At 58 I guess I am also enjoying the silent thrust thing. 


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    Leawood911:
    Enmanuel:
    Whoopsy:
    Leawood911:

    Equal energy perhaps but the ICE engine only gets about 30% out of all that energy. 

     

    Taking IV drips is also more efficient than eating solid food, would you be skipping eating from now on also?

    That would severely diminish my potential for contribution here until I get a Porsche Smiley

    But I love the analogies.  The best ones I ever find are from Whoopsy 

    my comment was in relation to the amount of energy in the fuel. It needed some clarification. You are welcome. 
    Yes cars sound fun. At 58 I guess I am also enjoying the silent thrust thing. 

     

    Get ready for this one then. Smiley

    My hand never made any sound, but it is quicker and gets the job done. It might take an hour or 2 or all night but I enjoy a girl in bed that make all the right sound more. 

     

     


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    Well there's some mental imagery that I was not really looking to find  surprise    Still funny though


     
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