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Drove down to Torrey Pines/La Jolla on Sunday and on the way back, I decided to take Ortega Hwy (a nice driving mountain pass) from the Lake Elsinore side. At the stop sign, before you go on the highway, a new yellow Ferarri 360 was in front of me. So the two of us decided to make a brisk drive to the other side. Even with my standard 997, I had no problem staying with the 360, even though I have only 2000 miles experience with a 911. Give me another 1000 miles of experience, and I will beat the 360 the next time.
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vtrader said:
Drove down to Torrey Pines/La Jolla on Sunday and on the way back, I decided to take Ortega Hwy (a nice driving mountain pass) from the Lake Elsinore side. At the stop sign, before you go on the highway, a new yellow Ferarri 360 was in front of me. So the two of us decided to make a brisk drive to the other side. Even with my standard 997, I had no problem staying with the 360, even though I have only 2000 miles experience with a 911. Give me another 1000 miles of experience, and I will beat the 360 the next time.
Jan 31, 2005 8:13:49 PM
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nberry said:The women also were enjoying it though they were watching me and had that look in their eyes saying I wish I was in HIS car.
I made no effort to go by him though I had plenty of power to do so. I am sure he probably bragged to his girl and other friends that he either beat or stayed with a Ferrari(just as you are doing). It is understandable since it is a badge of honor to do so.
Jan 31, 2005 9:09:28 PM
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nberry said:The women also were enjoying it though they were watching me and had that look in their eyes saying I wish I was in HIS car.
I made no effort to go by him though I had plenty of power to do so. I am sure he probably bragged to his girl and other friends that he either beat or stayed with a Ferrari(just as you are doing). It is understandable since it is a badge of honor to do so.
Boy, and some Ferrari owners complain that Ferrari owners in general are getting stuck with a "certain" image... were is that photo of the Ferrari parked at the clinic?
I would love to see you here in souther Europe instead of the San Diego Highways, getting "humbled" by a Clio V6 or Boxster on a winding road were its not the HP on bursts of straight-line acceleration with an auto box but the driver thats counts.
Jan 31, 2005 10:51:48 PM
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nberry said:The women also were enjoying it though they were watching me and had that look in their eyes saying I wish I was in HIS car.
I made no effort to go by him though I had plenty of power to do so. I am sure he probably bragged to his girl and other friends that he either beat or stayed with a Ferrari(just as you are doing). It is understandable since it is a badge of honor to do so.
Boy, and some Ferrari owners complain that Ferrari owners in general are getting stuck with a "certain" image... were is that photo of the Ferrari parked at the clinic?
I would love to see you here in souther Europe instead of the San Diego Highways, getting "humbled" by a Clio V6 or Boxster on a winding road were its not the HP on bursts of straight-line acceleration with an auto box but the driver thats counts.
The truth hurts.Grind your teeth, let out a yell and get over it.
BTW, why is it you assume I do not know how to drive a car? Is it because I do not boast (like many on this board) how great of a driver I am? Or is it because I choose not to drive a Porsche because I do not consider myself a wannabe W. Roehl like a million deluded Porsche owners do?
Jan 31, 2005 11:02:31 PM
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Fanch said:
Calors and Nick, the never endind love story!
But please, Carlos and Nick, I diverged too much here, please, carry on!
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.. you can't have a Ferrari Porsche contest, you can't compare a Ferrari to anything else really, I'm talking as a car here, not on performance (that's another story) because Ferrari has the aura that other brands simply don't have.
Jan 31, 2005 11:58:45 PM
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...Deep deep deeeeep inside even like like him a little bit
Feb 1, 2005 12:04:33 AM
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vtrader said:
Drove down to Torrey Pines/La Jolla on Sunday and on the way back, I decided to take Ortega Hwy (a nice driving mountain pass) from the Lake Elsinore side. At the stop sign, before you go on the highway, a new yellow Ferarri 360 was in front of me. So the two of us decided to make a brisk drive to the other side. Even with my standard 997, I had no problem staying with the 360, even though I have only 2000 miles experience with a 911. Give me another 1000 miles of experience, and I will beat the 360 the next time.
Not me. How do you know the 360 was making an effort?
A few months ago a guy in a standard 996 with two girls in the car pulled alongside of me and accelerated. I decided to stay right next to him as he worked feverishly shifting through 2nd 3rd and 4th (quite poorly) which I found very amusing. The women also were enjoying it though they were watching me and had that look in their eyes saying I wish I was in HIS car.
I made no effort to go by him though I had plenty of power to do so. I am sure he probably bragged to his girl and other friends that he either beat or stayed with a Ferrari(just as you are doing). It is understandable since it is a badge of honor to do so.
Feb 1, 2005 12:12:00 AM
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nberry said:The women also were enjoying it though they were watching me and had that look in their eyes saying I wish I was in HIS car.
I made no effort to go by him though I had plenty of power to do so. I am sure he probably bragged to his girl and other friends that he either beat or stayed with a Ferrari(just as you are doing). It is understandable since it is a badge of honor to do so.
Boy, and some Ferrari owners complain that Ferrari owners in general are getting stuck with a "certain" image... were is that photo of the Ferrari parked at the clinic?
I would love to see you here in souther Europe instead of the San Diego Highways, getting "humbled" by a Clio V6 or Boxster on a winding road were its not the HP on bursts of straight-line acceleration with an auto box but the driver thats counts.
The truth hurts.Grind your teeth, let out a yell and get over it.
BTW, why is it you assume I do not know how to drive a car? Is it because I do not boast (like many on this board) how great of a driver I am? Or is it because I choose not to drive a Porsche because I do not consider myself a wannabe W. Roehl like a million deluded Porsche owners do?
Feb 1, 2005 12:19:12 AM
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He is more into a car experience as a whole, it's gotta have a soul, a badge, a beauty, a noise, etc. Hence, the Ferrari makes perfect sense.
I must admit I'm more of a Nick kinda guy, well, I drive a cab , but performance and historical heritage are also very important to me.
But because I know that my driving ability won't be able to extract 100% potential of a sports car, I also like the image, the noise, etc etc etc.
Truth is, it's been discussed a zillion times, you can't have a Ferrari Porsche contest, you can't compare a Ferrari to anything else really, I'm talking as a car here, not on performance (that's another story) because Ferrari has the aura that other brands simply don't have.
That aura applies to the general public here.
But please, Carlos and Nick, I diverged too much here, please, carry on!
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Fanch you summed it up perfectly! I have been trying to say that for over 3 years. However I would never compare a Ferrari to a Porsche. It would be like comparing a Mustang or GTO to a Porsche. Doing so would be an insult to Porsche.
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Not me. How do you know the 360 was making an effort?
A few months ago a guy in a standard 996 with two girls in the car pulled alongside of me and accelerated. I decided to stay right next to him as he worked feverishly shifting through 2nd 3rd and 4th (quite poorly) which I found very amusing. The women also were enjoying it though they were watching me and had that look in their eyes saying I wish I was in HIS car.
I made no effort to go by him though I had plenty of power to do so. I am sure he probably bragged to his girl and other friends that he either beat or stayed with a Ferrari(just as you are doing). It is understandable since it is a badge of honor to do so.
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Is it because I do not boast (like many on this board) how great of a driver I am?
Feb 1, 2005 7:40:19 AM
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You are at one extreme end of the driver type... At the other is, or rather are... Ron and me!
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Fixed wing, I agree with you, all I meant is that Ferrari will always have that edge about aura...
Feb 1, 2005 11:49:40 AM
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Feb 2, 2005 4:43:55 AM
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I loved Porsche when I bought my 996 Cab. But they violated my trust, not by what they did to me in particular, but to all of us who placed our faith in this company.It became a greedy profit driven company not at all concerned about the value of the marque but the value of the P&L statement.
Feb 2, 2005 5:31:10 AM
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I loved Porsche when I bought my 996 Cab. But they violated my trust, not by what they did to me in particular, but to all of us who placed our faith in this company.It became a greedy profit driven company not at all concerned about the value of the marque but the value of the P&L statement.
Feb 2, 2005 1:23:30 PM
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.. you can't have a Ferrari Porsche contest, you can't compare a Ferrari to anything else really, I'm talking as a car here, not on performance (that's another story) because Ferrari has the aura that other brands simply don't have.
Why not Fanch? These days I think you can compare both performance and aura. It is almost as if as Ferrari has gained in real-world performance, so has it lost some of that aura of being unique.
Stephen
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Spend a bit of time in Monte Carlo, and you will soon notice how the big mercs, porsches etc are standing all alone while small crowds are posing for a picture around nearly every Ferrari. A 348 actually "beat" a yellow Gemballa in terms of public attention the last time I visited .. It doesn't say much about how good the cars are, but Ferrari is definitively a unique brand.
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Spend a bit of time in Monte Carlo, and you will soon notice how the big mercs, porsches etc are standing all alone while small crowds are posing for a picture around nearly every Ferrari. A 348 actually "beat" a yellow Gemballa in terms of public attention the last time I visited .. It doesn't say much about how good the cars are, but Ferrari is definitively a unique brand.
I do not think its because it unique, but so rare that you see one. Porsches can be seen everywhere, the same with Merecedes. But Ferrari? Hardly ever do I see one in the street. I see maybe a thousand Mercedes for every Porsche I see and maybe a thousand Porsches for every Ferrari I have seen. So I think that it not so much a unique brand but a very rare brand. Even I who loves Porsche would gawk at a Ferrari if I ever get the chance to actually see one on the street.