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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    the-missile:
    Lars997:

    C-Class facelift. Biggest disspointment that they leave this tablet screen on top. On the other hand as I own the pre-facelift I'm happy that it is not too much changed. smiley

    that looks better to me than current cheap massive screens...angry

    Screen looks better than on my C63S coupe, but still way too much Basel! 


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Lars997:

    C-Class facelift. Biggest disspointment that they leave this tablet screen on top. On the other hand as I own the pre-facelift I'm happy that it is not too much changed. smiley

    Thanks for posting this photo, haven't seen it yet. Smiley

    The wide screen looks now (a little bit) better than the older one but I hate this tablet style stuff, who came up with this design catastrophe? Smiley

    We switched to the C63 S AMG convertible facelift since car was due for a April/May delivery and the facelift comes out in July. Didn't make sense. So we changed delivery to October, getting the facelift now. There is a small chance of a C63 S AMG 4matic now (there are rumors...but apparently Mercedes has a tough time to add the 4matic system to the C class with the 4.0 l biturbo engine since the engine itself required some massive changes), if true, we will switch to the 4matic version. Other rumors: 530 hp instead of 510, particulate filter (with some bad luck, also a bit more muted sound), exhaust system still switchable, new LED lights (look cool), improved traction (changes rear axle/differential, also improved ESP/traction system). Performance doesn't change much though.


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    the center console below the screen looks absolutely horrendous. 


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    996FourEss:

    the center console below the screen looks absolutely horrendous. 

    It doesn't look much different from the pre-facelift and looks much better in carbon for example (see photo).

    2015-C-CLASS-C63-AMG-carbon-fiber.jpg


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    I have the silver carbon finish in my car. 


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    kiss Wood applications just don't look good in the C class.


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    RC:

    kiss Wood applications just don't look good in the C class.

    Actually, I like that open pore wood. Looks modern yet cozy. 


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Lars997:
    RC:

    kiss Wood applications just don't look good in the C class.

    Actually, I like that open pore wood. Looks modern yet cozy. 

    Never been a wood interior friend but I never saw it live on a C class.


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    This looks good 


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    Looking forward to see the car on the streets. Luckily, they kept the side pipes indecision


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    I don't know, personally to me it doesn't make sense to give this car a complete overhaul, either you keep making the old one with small evolutions or stop making it altogether, but making a new modern version that "looks" like the old one just doesn't do it for me, it doesn't have the quirks and brute character of the old one which is what made it appealing in spite of being outdated. Its like putting a quartz movement on a classic automatic swiss watch. It may keep better time, more reliable, less maintenance, etc but looses it's appeal. Just my personal opinion but if I were in the market for a G, I would buy one of the outgoing AMG version and hold on to it.


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    So do we consider this to be the second generation?

    I think they wanted to male it posher and they certainly did. 


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Maybe third gen. Can't remember when they went from W461->W463 model but that was a major overhaul already. Late 90's?

     


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Carlos from Spain:

    I don't know, personally to me it doesn't make sense to give this car a complete overhaul, either you keep making the old one with small evolutions or stop making it altogether, but making a new modern version that "looks" like the old one just doesn't do it for me, it doesn't have the quirks and brute character of the old one which is what made it appealing in spite of being outdated. Its like putting a quartz movement on a classic automatic swiss watch. It may keep better time, more reliable, less maintenance, etc but looses it's appeal. Just my personal opinion but if I were in the market for a G, I would buy one of the outgoing AMG version and hold on to it.

    I don't follow. If I remember correctly, the new one is on average better both on-road and off-road. It's not like the compromised the car's off-road abilities. It is still improved off-road. I don't think anyone would want a worse off-road experience...

    I mean, I guess they could have made it even worse on-road and even better off-road, but that would probably have no buyers at all since there are much better choices for true off-road vehicles.

    I think this vehicle is almost perfect -- way better interior, still looks how people like, still half-way decent for modest off-road stuff, and just better on-road. Only thing it's missing is a EV powertrain ;)


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    I'm sure its better in every way, that is not the point, but the G was not appealing because it was the best handling, most confortable, great interior, best on-road SUV/4x4, it was because it was rugged, brute, masculine, irreverent pure 4x4 vehicle from another time with a disproportionate AMG engine that sounded great. A visceral choice rather than a logical one. This one is so modern it no longer has any relation to the old one and looses than cool factor IMO.


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Hopefully, we can see a nice drop in older G prices as owners dump them for the new one. 


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    AP911:

    Hopefully, we can see a nice drop in older G prices as owners dump them for the new one. 

    Or a rise of older G's now that they don't make them anymore Smiley


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Carlos from Spain:

    I'm sure its better in every way, that is not the point, but the G was not appealing because it was the best handling, most confortable, great interior, best on-road SUV/4x4, it was because it was rugged, brute, masculine, irreverent pure 4x4 vehicle from another time with a disproportionate AMG engine that sounded great. A visceral choice rather than a logical one. This one is so modern it no longer has any relation to the old one and looses than cool factor IMO.

    Perfect for the ultimate soccer mom car Smiley


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Carlos from Spain:
    AP911:

    Hopefully, we can see a nice drop in older G prices as owners dump them for the new one. 

    Or a rise of older G's now that they don't make them anymore Smiley

    in regards to the customers for G-Class, the latest is always the greatest... so ''old'' 63AMG will fall, at least here Smiley


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    the-missile:
    Carlos from Spain:
    AP911:

    Hopefully, we can see a nice drop in older G prices as owners dump them for the new one. 

    Or a rise of older G's now that they don't make them anymore Smiley

    in regards to the customers for G-Class, the latest is always the greatest... so ''old'' 63AMG will fall, at least here Smiley

    I would say most customers of the G class are in that bracket. Definitely different that 911 customers. 


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Carlos from Spain:

    I'm sure its better in every way, that is not the point, but the G was not appealing because it was the best handling, most confortable, great interior, best on-road SUV/4x4, it was because it was rugged, brute, masculine, irreverent pure 4x4 vehicle from another time with a disproportionate AMG engine that sounded great. A visceral choice rather than a logical one. This one is so modern it no longer has any relation to the old one and looses than cool factor IMO.

    Second that. I already didn't like the old one, but at least that was an "honest" car... this thing looks like the G-series equivalent of a new beetle. Yes, it may be updated and polished, but in the process they managed to make it look like a playmobil car and took away any bit of desirability it might have had for me.


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Don't see anyone rushing out to buy 1997 Boxsters due to their character...


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    noone1:

    Don't see anyone rushing out to buy 1997 Boxsters due to their character...

    Is not that complicated but seems you are really struggling to get the point... substitute 97 Boxsters with air-cooled 911's and you would of gotten it 


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Carlos from Spain:
    noone1:

    Don't see anyone rushing out to buy 1997 Boxsters due to their character...

    Is not that complicated but seems you are really struggling to get the point... substitute 97 Boxsters with air-cooled 911's and you would of gotten it 

    Yep, shows how much he is into sports cars.


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Not exactly G class but...new C class facelift multi beam LEDs...I think.

    image.MQ6.0.20180212132813.jpeg


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    That's probably one of the ugliest promo color they could have selected.


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    noone1:

    That's probably one of the ugliest promo color they could have selected.

    It is a new color, I think emerald green. 

    Not a fan... Smiley


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    Kardashians can not wait for their new Gs......


    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    enlightened


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    Re: 2018 Mercedes G-Class

    G63 AMG Edition 1...

    markt1.jpg
    markt3.jpg
    markt2.jpg


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