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RC said:
But what do you expect from the tires? I needed new tires at around 10000 km (6250 mls) too, it really depends on driving style and of course they wear off much faster when the truck is driven hard.
Oil consumption? Well, around 1 litre every 1500 km now. This is pretty normal for a turbo charged engine.
BTW: I'm waiting for you to sell your CGT because the tires make too much noise.
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W8MM said:
I have had 3 LX's and just switched to a 2005 GX with the KDSS suspension (Sport package). The LX or GX is hard to beat for everyday, high-capacity mobility.
GX weighs a good 500 lbs less than the LX and have virtually the same cargo and seating capacity.
LX was 13/16 EPA and GX is 15/19. Looks like the 500 fewer pounds helped something since they both have the same size engine.
More on KDSS here and here.
I test drove the GX with and without KDSS and held out for the KDSS-equipped truck. What a difference in handling feel. Even my wife and kids easily noticed the vastly reduced body roll.
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///AMG Mercedes said:
Ouch! Ben you are lethal!
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ben, lj said:
cute, smart arse
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cute, smart arse
Hipocrit? Please, ben: how could I take somebody seriously who buys a Carrera GT and complaints that his garage entrance is too high and the car too low.
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No more arguments...now using my own posts?
I know what I said and people who were following ALL Cayenne Turbo discussions and ALL my posts know exactly how I think about the Cayenne. As I said: not the perfect SUV, not what I expected from Porsche but you still didn't name any alternative. I want the handling and I want the power and as long as nobody else offers a similar package, I stick with the Cayenne. I won't sell it because of tire wear or even braking performance. Especially the braking performance is still one of the best on the market but I want it to be up to Porsche quality, not to Toyota/Lexus quality. Meaning: it should provide a firm brake feel and enough braking power even when braking from 270 kph to lower speeds at high outside temperatures in summer.
But I guess this problem will be solved soon anyway...one way or another.
Regarding your 450000 USD car: if I would spend 450000 bucks for a car, I would spend another 5000 or so to lower the entrance of my garage. Just a little hint, in case you didn't think of it.
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ben, lj said:
yeah, i guess citing your posts wherein you complained strongly about exactly what i did was a weak way for me to question your suggesting i should expect it. come on rc, don't make it so easy for me to make an ass out of you.
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and, leave it to a know it all pharmacist to size up my garage dilema and propose to fix it for $5k. i wasn't aware you had so much construction experience with 3 story homes with two floors of living space under the garage (on the street level) on the side of mountains. your familiarity and expertise with the ca coastal commission requirements including but not limited to hieght restrictions, slope and drain requirements is also impressive. the breadth and depth of your knowledge never ceases to amaze. where oh where do you find the time?
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yeah, i guess citing your posts wherein you complained strongly about exactly what i did was a weak way for me to question your suggesting i should expect it. come on rc, don't make it so easy for me to make an ass out of you.
C'mon ben, don't make it so easy for me to press the DELETE button, unless the admin is faster.
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and, leave it to a know it all pharmacist to size up my garage dilema and propose to fix it for $5k. i wasn't aware you had so much construction experience with 3 story homes with two floors of living space under the garage (on the street level) on the side of mountains. your familiarity and expertise with the ca coastal commission requirements including but not limited to hieght restrictions, slope and drain requirements is also impressive. the breadth and depth of your knowledge never ceases to amaze. where oh where do you find the time?
Well, I find the time to reply to your funny posts...
My suggestion to end your Porsche dilemma and pain: sell both, the CGT AND Cayenne Turbo and all your problems will vanish in a second. And MINE too.
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JimFlat6 said:
have the sense to build a small portable ramp for his driveway entrance. He might not be psychic about real estate but im sure he would have the brains to find a solution. At least he is gracious and does not exhibit a spoiled and condescending attitude.
Consider that Viper owners have to build ramps. They have a horrendous ground clearance problem. You can use plywood or you can use whatever your self worth fancies. Its not permanent so all of the whining about what iffing the CCC can stop.
If you want N spec tires on your hokum 4X4 then your gonna have get to be friendly with your tire dealer.
Toyota trucks are behemoths in their own right. Try a emergency lane change at 100 and see how quickly you see Jesus.
Im tired of the self entitled: they better do this, i paid them that, mentality of people who buy limited production
vehicles and then whine on and on. Europeans know what these
vehicles are about. They arent buying them to operate like
toasters. They dont moooooooaan about getting to the store.
If their Cayenne gets edgy, they have other cars and people to do that. If you want a Euro status performance car,truck or even a wtist watch you gotta take the good with the bad. They are not friggn Dodge's and reliability is not connected to the price in much of anyway.
Go get six sheets of plywood, span your gutter, road and driveway edge and park your CGT inside the garage.
Im tired of hearin about it.
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Toyota trucks are behemoths in their own right. Try a emergency two lane change at 100 and see how quickly you see Jesus and wish you had N spec tires and a decent suspension.
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Toyota trucks are behemoths in their own right. Try a emergency two lane change at 100 and see how quickly you see Jesus and wish you had N spec tires and a decent suspension.
Jim,
I've gotta hand it to you, you're right on the money about this one.
I'd rather see Jesus in church, but I believe the GX470 (even with KDSS) has an under-damped step-steer response that's perfect for impromptu prayer.
The last time I tried an emergency lane change (last week) in the GX, I was somewhat amused by the amount of out-of-phase steering response I experienced.
Luckily for me, I had plenty of experience with such behavior in my misspent youth while driving a 1st-generation Plymouth Horizon. Brock Yates coined the term "guard-rail-seeking missile" to honor the Horizon's post-maneuver stability. I managed to recover with some measure of grace.
I have to say I was surprised that the GX didn't acquit itself better considering how crisp it feels in more ordinary driving.
I was sorely tempted to buy a Cayenne instead of the GX470, but the Cayenne has so much less cargo space with the second row seats in use that family vacations or trips to summer camp were not possible.
For now, I'll just have to be more aware of the reduced maneuver envelope of Toyotas until Porsche (or maybe BMW in less time) sees fit to make a 7-passenger version that will better fit my needs. A Cayenne just can't haul around half the volleyball or tennis team any better than a sedan.
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///AMG Mercedes said:
I don't wanna sound stupid or anything and in your eyes its probably no real alternative, but how about the ML? Specifically the AMG model? Its worth a test drive, no? (when it actually hits your shores)
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///AMG Mercedes said:
I don't wanna sound stupid or anything ..., but how about the ML?
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///AMG Mercedes said:
Ben, this is exactly what i was afraid of. I KNOW quality of MB ever since 98 is in the dump. They have made some truly HORRIBLY built cars this past 7-8 years or so. Trust me, I own a "great" example of MB build quality, the old A-class
But i tell you, with the new recent models, CLS/SLK/A and now ML things are completely turning around. These cars are NOTHING like their predecessors. The new A-class is one helluva car (for what it is). I have no doubt Mercedes is really revamping its new models. The upcoming ML60/63 AMG will hopefully be a very good car, if some rumours come true.
I must stress, DON'T judge the latest generation by their predecessors, those oldies can't hold a candle to the new cars. Judge the new ones as if they are the first generation. I know quality as of the past 7-8 years has left a VERY bad taste in the mouth of the public and the motoring world, but this IS changing. Mercedes thought it could cut costs without compromising quality or tarnishing the brand, WRONG, now they are trying much more harder...
@W8MM, the current model in its final edition guise has a third row, not sure if its big enough for your boys, but I see no reason why the new ML shouldn't get such an option...
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