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May 31, 2016 11:40:48 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: m4ever

Re: 718 Boxster

m4ever:
Porsche-Jeck:
Back on topic

I never read such a negative article on any Porsche sportscar coming from EVO :

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/boxster/17792/porsche-718-boxster-review-why-everything-porsche-touches-doesn-t-always-turn

According to the article the 2.0 L + PDK must be an aweful Combo If they are right with their assessment of the 2.0 then the non-S may not be the smart buy at all (as some assumed just judging from the numbers)

+1 Thanks for sharing Porsche-Jeck . Me too, never ever read such a critical article about a Porsche product. I am now even more curious to test drive a 718 and a 718 S.

The frustration is that the 718 is such a great car, and significantly better than 981 in many areas (steering, PDK, PCM etc) - but the sum total of those improvements is more than negated by "that" engine. If the next GTS has even 400 bhp with a four cylinder engine I still wouldn't want one. Smiley

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May 31, 2016 4:19:48 PM

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italy; Posts: 1051, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2005; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: 718 Boxster

@Dreamcar, interesting perspective. I can`t comment on the 718 as I haven`t driven one and I am looking forward to it. But.. I thought Porsche would pull it off (as they always did) . Now reading your posts , the reviews and some friends feedback of the 718 , one has doubts . Sales numbers will tell.

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May 31, 2016 7:13:54 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12588, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: m4ever

Re: 718 Boxster

m4ever:
Sales numbers will tell.

Yes, this will be interesting. They can't really revert to Flat-6 motors very easily, so I wonder if hybrid development would be hurried along? Having electric torque fill has some advantages with the turbo Flat-4, at the expensive of more weight...

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May 31, 2016 7:49:54 PM

DaveGordon: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Zürich , Switzerland; Posts: 2774, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 20, 2007; Reply to: Grant

Re: 718 Boxster

We'll probably see that the segment of buyers put off by the lack of 6-cyl is inconsequential.. surprise

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Jun 1, 2016 7:41:29 AM

olli: Pilot; Loc: Germany; Posts: 418, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 24, 2006; Reply to: DaveGordon

Re: 718 Boxster

Out of curiosity, I arranged for a test-drive of a base 718 Boxster over the coming weekend. I will report back on my initial impressions.

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Jun 6, 2016 6:58:09 AM

olli: Pilot; Loc: Germany; Posts: 418, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 24, 2006; Reply to: olli

Re: 718 Boxster

Well, in a nutshell, EVO and dreamcar make very valid points. The car itself is great, as dreamcar stated, but the sound of the engine (in this case the base Boxster), very much reminded me of the long-gone days of a souped-up Beetle engine.

Turning on the sport exhaust mode made matters significantly, and almost embarassingly, worse, and the articial crackling sound is just ridiculous.

Turn the damned thing off, and sport mode on, and you get a more muted non-descript sound one can probably just about live with, coupled with a fairly impressive performance in terms of power and torque, the chassis is great anyway.

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Jun 6, 2016 3:48:09 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59602, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: olli

Re: 718 Boxster

olli:
Well, in a nutshell, EVO and dreamcar make very valid points. The car itself is great, as dreamcar stated, but the sound of the engine (in this case the base Boxster), very much reminded me of the long-gone days of a souped-up Beetle engine.

Turning on the sport exhaust mode made matters significantly, and almost embarassingly, worse, and the articial crackling sound is just ridiculous.

Turn the damned thing off, and sport mode on, and you get a more muted non-descript sound one can probably just about live with, coupled with a fairly impressive performance in terms of power and torque, the chassis is great anyway.

I can sign this 100%... Smiley The artificial crackling sound is embarrassing. Smiley

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Jun 10, 2016 9:19:03 AM

jamesdamanuk1: Pilot; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 300, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 28, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: 718 Boxster

I could have got a brand new 718 Boxster S or ordered a new Cayman S but got an older 2014 Cayman GTS. The 2.5 engine is, to me not nice at all bordering of horrible. I actually much prefer the 2.0, sounds nicer as well to me. Not impressed by these new cars, sorry but its just not for me. The cost is silly by the time you add it up it wasnt much more for something slightly older but with 6 or more cylinders. After the GTS its a GT4 or something along those lines.

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Jun 10, 2016 1:34:21 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: jamesdamanuk1

Re: 718 Boxster

jamesdamanuk1:
I could have got a brand new 718 Boxster S or ordered a new Cayman S but got an older 2014 Cayman GTS. The 2.5 engine is, to me not nice at all bordering of horrible. I actually much prefer the 2.0, sounds nicer as well to me. Not impressed by these new cars, sorry but its just not for me. The cost is silly by the time you add it up it wasnt much more for something slightly older but with 6 or more cylinders. After the GTS its a GT4 or something along those lines.

You made the right choice IMO Smiley Never have I been so dissolutioned with a new Porsche sports car as I was with the 718, yet SWMBO loved it. But she was more into the comfort seats she still misses from our beloved '06 Boxster S we couldn't have in our current GTS, the rear parking camera and the much improved navigation system. I'd agree with her if it wasn't for those horrible engines Smiley

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Jun 10, 2016 2:06:12 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59602, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: 718 Boxster

Well, I drive an Audi now...so take a guess why.

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Jun 10, 2016 2:22:08 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: 718 Boxster

The only Porsches in my stable for the last 10 years have been SUV...

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Jun 15, 2016 8:44:42 AM

olli: Pilot; Loc: Germany; Posts: 418, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 24, 2006; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: 718 Boxster

Well, in a nutshell, EVO and dreamcar make very valid points. The car itself is great, as dreamcar stated, but the sound of the engine (in this case the base Boxster), very much reminded me of the long-gone days of a souped-up Beetle engine.

Turning on the sport exhaust mode made matters significantly, and almost embarassingly, worse, and the articial crackling sound is just ridiculous.

Turn the damned thing off, and sport mode on, and you get a more muted non-descript sound one can probably just about live with, coupled with a fairly impressive performance in terms of power and torque, the chassis is great anyway.

The current issue of AMS features a test of the 718 base Boxster...confirms all the points made in this thread

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Jun 18, 2016 5:20:41 PM

Targa Tim: Expert; Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 3, 2005; Reply to: olli

Re: 718 Boxster

just check Burmester stereo option and you will not know or care what you are missing

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Jun 18, 2016 5:28:57 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: Targa Tim

Re: 718 Boxster

Targa Tim:
just check Burmester stereo option and you will not know or care what you are missing

I think I would!! Smiley I'd have a different kind of car if I wanted a great stereo, a nice relaxing coupe rather than a sports car.

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Jun 19, 2016 1:24:19 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59602, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Targa Tim

Re: 718 Boxster

Targa Tim:
just check Burmester stereo option and you will not know or care what you are missing

Smiley Smiley

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Jun 19, 2016 11:44:21 PM

bobr: Veteran; Loc: New York , United States; Posts: 945, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: 718 Boxster

Does anyone have any details on the valve problem holding up deliveries on the new 718?

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Jun 20, 2016 11:48:12 AM

acky: Co-Pilot; Loc: Westerwald , Germany; Posts: 203, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 25, 2002; Reply to: bobr

Re: 718 Boxster

I heard only from leaking oel sumps. But this can be fixed by the dealer.

It's like almost all times, not buy a car with a new engine or completly new car in the first year.....
It's worse than 10 years ago, because of much more complexity in the cars.
The first year buyers are the beta testers.

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Jun 20, 2016 12:35:29 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14183, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: acky

Re: 718 Boxster

I test drove the 718 this morning . Nice Subaru engine smiley

I tried the car directly after I tried the 991.2 and the 718 felt mice more alive and fun . The engine does go well and hardly any turbo lag . Much less then in the 991.2 . Lots of torque , the car goes well . But.... only torque . To me it does not have the appeal of a higher reving 6 cylinder , even if the car was actually quite fun to drive .

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Jun 20, 2016 3:05:21 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12588, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: Gnil

Re: 718 Boxster

Gnil:
I test drove the 718 this morning . Nice Subaru engine

I tried the car directly after I tried the 991.2 and the 718 felt mice more alive and fun . The engine does go well and hardly any turbo lag . Much less then in the 991.2 . Lots of torque , the car goes well . But.... only torque . To me it does not have the appeal of a higher reving 6 cylinder , even if the car was actually quite fun to drive .

Did you try the 2.0 or 2.5S?

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Jun 20, 2016 3:53:49 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14183, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: Grant

Re: 718 Boxster

Grant:
Gnil:
I test drove the 718 this morning . Nice Subaru engine

I tried the car directly after I tried the 991.2 and the 718 felt mice more alive and fun . The engine does go well and hardly any turbo lag . Much less then in the 991.2 . Lots of torque , the car goes well . But.... only torque . To me it does not have the appeal of a higher reving 6 cylinder , even if the car was actually quite fun to drive .

Did you try the 2.0 or 2.5S?

the 2.5 S

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Jun 20, 2016 4:35:57 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: Gnil

Re: 718 Boxster

Gnil:
Grant:
Gnil:
I test drove the 718 this morning . Nice Subaru engine

I tried the car directly after I tried the 991.2 and the 718 felt mice more alive and fun . The engine does go well and hardly any turbo lag . Much less then in the 991.2 . Lots of torque , the car goes well . But.... only torque . To me it does not have the appeal of a higher reving 6 cylinder , even if the car was actually quite fun to drive .

Did you try the 2.0 or 2.5S?

the 2.5 S

The 2.0 is the less coarse of the two. If I had to have a 718 I'd choose the lower powered one for that reason.

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Jun 21, 2016 10:25:30 AM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: 718 Boxster

Best description yet of the new engine by Chris Harris on Top Gear : "The rattly thing out back" Smiley

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Jun 21, 2016 10:51:08 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59602, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: 718 Boxster

dreamcar:
Best description yet of the new engine by Chris Harris on Top Gear : "The rattly thing out back"

Smiley Smiley I think he was trying to be polite... Smiley

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Jun 21, 2016 11:24:05 AM

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italy; Posts: 1051, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: 718 Boxster

RC:
dreamcar:
Best description yet of the new engine by Chris Harris on Top Gear : "The rattly thing out back"

I think he was trying to be polite...

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Here is the full article. It is a good read.

http://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/chris-harris-drives-porsche-718-boxster

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Jul 15, 2016 5:34:13 PM

4trac: Expert; Loc: SK , Canada; Posts: 1920, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 6, 2006; Reply to: m4ever

Re: 718 Boxster

And another review, this time the Carfection / XCars mob, bemoaning "the noise... (grimace, shakes head)... the noise..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_T1ZxnuTI

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Jul 17, 2016 4:11:55 PM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: 4trac

Re: 718 Boxster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhxGy8BqsYQ

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Jul 17, 2016 6:07:57 PM

dreamcar: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Hampshire , United Kingdom; Posts: 8797, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 19, 2004; Reply to: Topspeed

Re: 718 Boxster

Topspeed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhxGy8BqsYQ

Recommended accessory :-

Bose noise cancelling headphones.

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Jul 18, 2016 7:58:10 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: dreamcar

Re: 718 Boxster

@Dreamcar - this is exactly what I wear when driving my 356 Speedster on longer distance broken heart But being honest - my 59 years old Speedster sounds much better than this 718 smiley

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Jul 18, 2016 5:30:14 PM

964C2: Expert; Loc: Dallas, TX , United States; Posts: 1825, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: Lars997

Re: 718 Boxster

For those old enough to remember...it sounds a lot like a 1960's Beetle with a Bursch exhaust!

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Jul 19, 2016 1:22:30 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59602, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: 964C2

Re: 718 Boxster

964C2:
For those old enough to remember...it sounds a lot like a 1960's Beetle with a Bursch exhaust!

Pretty good example... Smiley

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