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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    I talked to someone familiar with the development and he confirmed IAA. Also heard rumors that Nürburgring time is on par with a GT3 RS.  This will be a very interesting car ...


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    schmoell:

    I talked to someone familiar with the development and he confirmed IAA. Also heard rumors that Nürburgring time is on par with a GT3 RS.  This will be a very interesting car ...

    Can’t be.  Only Tesla has the knowhow to produce a performance EV. /sarc.


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    lexs4:
    boytronic:

    What type of turbocharger is used in the Taycan Turbo?

    Same kind as my old 386 computer had...Smiley

    turbo.jpg

    Exactly!  And same kind as on Specialized Turbo S e-bike Smiley


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Or in that little blue pill😎


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Wonderbar:

    Or in that little blue pill😎

    One activity where speed is not always rewarded  Smiley


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

     I agree, but crossing the finish line is always a trip no matter how fast you go😎


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Enzo II:

    ???? heart

    A  Taycan with a cover! From someone who saw the car and worked with the car!


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    schmoell:

    I talked to someone familiar with the development and he confirmed IAA. Also heard rumors that Nürburgring time is on par with a GT3 RS.  This will be a very interesting car ...

    I guess your "someone familiar with the development " forgot to say that it will revealed on the 4th of September before a...GOLF Tournament!


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    RC:
    Whoopsy:

    It's still on track for Frankfurt debut last I check.

    Configurator and ordering will open at that time.

     

    Smiley Will be very "tight" though, a couple of weeks ago, they weren't so sure they are going to make the deadline but either way, the car will be in Frankfurt, ready or not. 

    The car is more than ready!!!

    The dates for the presentation were made/decided in December 2018/January 2019! They confirmed (for the press/public) it on April 2019! 


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    EnglishManInNY:

    My wife has already told me she wants a tesla model x again. I asked if she wanted a BMW X7. Nope a model x. A Porsche Cayenne. Nope a model xyes

    Men tend to discount the appeal of never having to deal with petrol stations again.  Women seem to be somewhat uncomfortable with standing in a vulnerable place (outside the vehicle with unknown strangers) while refilling the tank.  Men don't much share the emotional downside to this feeling of exposure.  Feeling safe inside one's own garage when dealing with "filling the tank" is a big deal for women whether they talk about it or not.  The bonus of feeling "green" adds to the appeal.


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    Mike

    918 Spyder + Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S P100D AP2 + Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    W8MM:
    EnglishManInNY:

    My wife has already told me she wants a tesla model x again. I asked if she wanted a BMW X7. Nope a model x. A Porsche Cayenne. Nope a model xyes

    Men tend to discount the appeal of never having to deal with petrol stations again.  Women seem to be somewhat uncomfortable with standing in a vulnerable place (outside the vehicle with unknown strangers) while refilling the tank.  Men don't much share the emotional downside to this feeling of exposure.  Feeling safe inside one's own garage when dealing with "filling the tank" is a big deal for women whether they talk about it or not.  The bonus of feeling "green" adds to the appeal.

    Sir, you are extremely correct with this brief synopsis.  


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    My wife sends me to the gas station, she has not filled a car in many many years...


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    That is funny, because that is my wife in a nutshell. That is why she loved the Q7 tdi, hardly needing filling and why she hated the old Q7 4.2 before, that one needed to filled every second day. She already told me that she if never had to go to a gas station again, she would love that. No EV this time, but next time, most likely... for her.

     


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Yes my wife hates going to a gas station. This is a major deal for her so I couldn’t agree more.


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    Tesla Model S P100D & Model X P90D & 2016 BMW i8 & 2017 Sept 991.2 GT3 ordered. 2020 Porsche Mission E on order


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Judging by the last four answers, this is the major selling point of an EV.smiley


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Volkswagen Group is working on an induction charging system that merely requires the EV to drive over a mat on the garage floor.  While the charging rates are relatively low, it is perfect to top up the battery pack overnight, every day.


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Do you know the expected charging rate and efficiency ? BMW  has what they call "Wireless charging"; rate is below 4KW (if I'm not mistaken) 


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    schmoell:

    Do you know the expected charging rate and efficiency ? BMW  has what they call "Wireless charging"; rate is below 4KW (if I'm not mistaken) 

    11 kW??

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/wireless-charging-cars-finally-here-180970494/


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    Mike

     

    918 Spyder + Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S P100D AP2 + Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    SciFrog:

    My wife sends me to the gas station, she has not filled a car in many many years...

    You must be my twin!

    EVs are very nice because SHE is now the person who "fills up the tank", not I.


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    Mike

     

    918 Spyder + Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S P100D AP2 + Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    11kwh with 90% efficiency would be about 7-8kwh of charge. That would be great actually. My city garage only has 8kwh and that’s more than enough. I have been using only 3kwh at the beach house (until with change the internal charger dial) and even that is enough. 

    All this new tech is really exciting. ICE and hybrid cars are already obsolete today and it is getting worse with every little advance. 


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    schmoell:

    Do you know the expected charging rate and efficiency ? BMW  has what they call "Wireless charging"; rate is below 4KW (if I'm not mistaken) 

    Latest on the topic from Audi is 3.6 kW.  https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/technology-lexicon-7180/charging-technologies-10999 

    Not great but adequate when a car is parked overnight in the garage for ten or more hours.


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    W8MM:
    schmoell:

    Do you know the expected charging rate and efficiency ? BMW  has what they call "Wireless charging"; rate is below 4KW (if I'm not mistaken) 

    11 kW??

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/wireless-charging-cars-finally-here-180970494/


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    Mike

     

    918 Spyder + Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S P100D AP2 + Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T

    Modifying the topic:  Are EVs more "stealthy" than ICEs?  Intuitively, it would seem that using radar, there is less reflective material in most EVs compared to ICEs as there isn't a large metal block in front.


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Good question Mike, and certainly right down your business alley.  A question for you—has your business modified as a result of the substantial move by law-enforcement to camera traps rather than radar?


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

     


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    Mike

    918 Spyder + Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S P100D AP2 + Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Wonderbar:

    Good question Mike, and certainly right down your business alley.  A question for you—has your business modified as a result of the substantial move by law-enforcement to camera traps rather than radar?

    The USA has not gone too far toward unattended camera traps.  The majority of USA radar/laser enforcement is still from patrol cars.


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    Mike

    918 Spyder + Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S P100D AP2 + Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    W8MM:

    https://twitter.com/PorscheNewsroom/status/1154744757056430080

    1564175690516image.jpeg

    Smiley


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    AJ:

    Judging by the last four answers, this is the major selling point of an EV.smiley

    My wife will give up much before trading her 911 for an EV, but, her analogy is she only wears solar or automatic watches because she hates going to a mall to get quartz watch batteries replaced.  Malls are her gas stations....Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Boxster Coupe GTS:
    W8MM:

    https://twitter.com/PorscheNewsroom/status/1154744757056430080

    1564175690516image.jpeg

    Smiley

    Can someone photoshop the current Panamera lights on to this to prove it’s a baby Panamera? ;)


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    AJ:

     She already told me that she if never had to go to a gas station again, she would love that. 

     

    My wife too, hates to go to the gas station .........


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    SciFrog:

    11kwh with 90% efficiency would be about 7-8kwh of charge. That would be great actually. My city garage only has 8kwh and that’s more than enough. I have been using only 3kwh at the beach house (until with change the internal charger dial) and even that is enough. 

    All this new tech is really exciting. ICE and hybrid cars are already obsolete today and it is getting worse with every little advance. 

     

    Calling ICE and hybrids obsolete is a premature ejaculation.

    EV is still very pre-mature as compared to hybrids and especially ICE.

    The support structure for EV is no where near even calling them good enough.

    As I said I another post before, the day when refuelling a EV is as convenient and as quick as refuelling a ICE or Hybrid is the day one can call them obsolete. 

     


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