Hi everyone. I've been following this site for some time now regarding the Taycan since it seems to be one of the better sites for news and tidbits about it. I'm really interested in EVs, but not so much ICEs/sport cars, and I'm curious to know why so many think the Porsche will be so much better than the Teslas?
I was recently able to drive the Audi Etron and while it was nice inside and quiet, the performance was not really near any of the Teslas, it wasn't really that big in terms of utility, and there was nothing like Autopilot. It was also really expensive.
I know people have high expectations for Porsche and some mentioned their 919 race car for expertise, but I'd point out that Toyota has nothing better than Tesla and they were more or less just as competent in that race series. It's clear that having a fast hybrid race car doesn't necessarily translate to mainstream BEV vehicles.
So far Volkswagen group hasn't shown any EV technology that compared favorably to Teslas from many years ago. The Etron has very bad efficiency, and though they claimed this is a trade-off for faster charging, Tesla has just shown they can charge just as quick with the latest Supercharger update and maintain their class leading efficiency. The Model 3 charges at a rate of 1000 "miles per hour".
I'm sure the Taycan will be good enough and probably handle great and have luxury interior, but I think it's quite a big stretch to say they are or will be ahead in actually BEV technology. So far the Volkswagen group has not demonstrated any class leading technology in the BEV field. Power electronics is a completely different field than the automotive engineering that Porsche is used to.
If Volkswagen and Porsche end up matching the acceleration performance and efficiencies of a Model S, that would actually be a big disappointment being that the Model S has been available for 7 years now and still hasn't even upgraded to the latest battery or electric motor technology of the 3. The Etron has just failed in doing so, so why such high expectations for Porsche technology?
Also, Tesla's Autopilot is way ahead of Audi and Porsche, though I don't think Porsche even has anything autonomous other than basic lane holding systems. I know this is more of sports car forum, but not having autonomous driving aides is a big drawback. If the Etron and Taycan don't have them now, they likely won't for 5+ years longer.
I'm still very excited to see Porsche's final product since all EVs are good for pushing the global transition to EVs, but I just don't see any technological evidence that indicates it will be groundbreaking. Does anyone have any actual data to back up these expectations and claims regarding Volkswagen group technology? I see lots of expectations and hopes, but Volkswagen has become quite the joke in terms of EV announcements. They constantly announce vehicles and concepts with fantastic specs, but then they say "Expected in 2022" or something. The majority of their products are vaporware still and the ones that did show up did not turn out so impressive.
One last thing. I really encourage some of you to rent a Tesla for a bit if possible. There seems to be a lot of misinformed opinions about it and EVs in general.