SciFrog:
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SciFrog:
Many here have been pitching unreleased products vs older tech Tesla already on the road. At the minimum you need to wait for what Tesla will release in the next couple of years. It would be foolish to think Tesla will stay stale since they don’t follow the dinosaurs upgrade cycles designed to extract maximum profits.
You keep ranting about Taycan being vapour ware. Which Porsche built a gigantic factory line for, and is real and is certainly coming?
But isn't that what you wrote here is exactly vapour ware instead?
Nick, who is implying the Taycan is not coming? The vapor ware part is about price and it’s place in Porsche lineup (and maybe timing). Porsche is playing the game of rumors to create a big buzz around it. All I am saying is wait until you can walk into a dealer or spec one with a final delivered price and optioned. In some way it is not different than Tesla touting a $35k model 3. Except that everyone knew it would be months (years even) before you could get one because Tesla basically told you so.
Of course they have deposits for 2 years. A $75k Porsche EV than will outperform, out handle and with a much higher quality interior than a Model S for 40% less money . Heck even I would buy one just for kicks. All I am saying is Porsche will not deliver that product at that price and are playing a dirty game just to inflate the buzz.
The equivalent of the Model S P100D built by Porsche should cost north of $180k. Let’s see how that 2 year waiting list fares then.
Elon taunt about the $35k Model 3 to create a buzz and attract deposits in order to gain access to that money. He never disclosed the fact that he is NOT going to build the $35k model until much later, Everyone who had put down a deposit pretty much thought they were going to get it right away.
For the Taycan, everyone KNOWS where it fits in their line up, or doesn't fit depending on one's point of view. The Taycan is the start of a separate line of electric offerings from Porsche, different from their fossil fuel line up. In that way it doesn't fit in. Just like Honda motorcycles don't fit into Honda's car line up. Different target audience. One could argue they are all cars, but same argument can be said of motorcycles vs cars, they are all just transportation devices. It's all about fitting one's need vs the offerings. If one really needs a EV from Porsche, then the Taycan, if not, then the Panamera.
For those that think it will fit into the line-up, then the picture is also even clearer. Panamera is big, it is in the S class, 7 series segment. Taycan is E-class, 5 series sized, so there is no overlap. People that buy S classes don't cross shop with E classes.
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