10.12.2018 05:49:11
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10.12.2018 08:52:58
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
The newly introduced 305/30/21 tires seems unique in size, I checked the majore tire manufacturers for the available models, only Pirelli does offer summer tires. I hope it will be available in size from multiple brands especially from Michelin for winter tires. Michelin outperforms the others in winter tires IMHO.
Oh and great release for Porsche, the 992 is, espcially in Gentian Blue. 
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10.12.2018 10:14:58
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
buzzinfrog:The newly introduced 305/30/21 tires seems unique in size, I checked the majore tire manufacturers for the available models, only Pirelli does offer summer tires. I hope it will be available in size from multiple brands especially from Michelin for winter tires. Michelin outperforms the others in winter tires IMHO.
Urban myth? 
There are other good winter tires as well, especially for high performance cars. Pirelli Sottozero or Scorpion come to mind, drove both on a Lambo Huracan Performante and Urus lately and they are amazing in the wet.
Not that the winter tires on my E63 S (Michelin Alpin PA4) are worse, pretty impressive performance for a winter tire. Especially in the wet and/or slippery surfaces. Snow remains to be seen.
Oh and great release for Porsche, the 992 is, espcially in Gentian Blue.
The 992 will find it's customers but it is almost too perfect (with the exception of the rear wing deployment look maybe).
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
One of THE best winter tires are Nokian...............
I remember they used to have sizes for 997.
I have had Pirelli winters on 991, but the Turbo S current runs on Michelin, honestly, both seems to be around the same performance.
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
Whoopsy:One of THE best winter tires are Nokian...............
I remember they used to have sizes for 997.
I have had Pirelli winters on 991, but the Turbo S current runs on Michelin, honestly, both seems to be around the same performance.
I have Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3's on my Evo and performance is pretty amazing in snow (may not have correct sizes for many Porsches though).
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10.12.2018 16:03:18
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10.12.2018 16:03:43
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10.12.2018 16:37:40
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10.12.2018 18:41:53
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
Grant:Whoopsy:One of THE best winter tires are Nokian...............
I remember they used to have sizes for 997.
I have had Pirelli winters on 991, but the Turbo S current runs on Michelin, honestly, both seems to be around the same performance.
I have Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3's on my Evo and performance is pretty amazing in snow (may not have correct sizes for many Porsches though).
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+1,000,000 Nokian are the best snow tire there is. If it's in your size and you care about SNOW performance it's the thing to get.
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
Whoopsy:One of THE best winter tires are Nokian...............
I remember they used to have sizes for 997.
I have had Pirelli winters on 991, but the Turbo S current runs on Michelin, honestly, both seems to be around the same performance.
Nokian is best for snow. Pirelli the best all rounder 
10.12.2018 22:37:20
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11.12.2018 02:07:45
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11.12.2018 02:31:09
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11.12.2018 02:34:44
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
By the way guys, besides those 2 buttons on the FIVE center, it appears that you also have a "to choose button" on the steering wheel!!!
I Guess most people will chose this button as a way to change the digital display!!!!
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11.12.2018 02:47:31
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
Paulo_Rangel_Melo:By the way guys, besides those 2 buttons on the FIVE center, it appears that you also have a "to choose button" on the steering wheel!!!
I Guess most people will chose this button as a way to change the digital display!!!!
That button should be used for turning off auto stop start!
It can be programmed to do that in my Cayenne, but in my Exclusive that option is gone
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11.12.2018 03:45:08
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11.12.2018 04:53:01
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11.12.2018 05:06:01
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11.12.2018 05:15:41
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11.12.2018 05:36:13
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11.12.2018 07:28:40
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11.12.2018 07:30:22
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
This pic makes so clear, why I hate big touchscreens in the centre console. 
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
Whoopsy:One of THE best winter tires are Nokian...............
I remember they used to have sizes for 997.
I have had Pirelli winters on 991, but the Turbo S current runs on Michelin, honestly, both seems to be around the same performance.
They were certainly very good on snow but now, they kind of fell back vs. the competition, especially in the dry and on wet pavement but in snow, they are still among the best. 
Had them for my 997.1 Turbo RUF 550, excellent at temps below 5°C or so and on snow, absolutely horrible at higher temps (especially over 11°C).
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
Rossi:Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
This pic makes so clear, why I hate big touchscreens in the centre console.
I love touch displays but not in cars. 
The tech isn't there yet, especially if the displays are small(er).
The main issue I have while driving and using a touch screen: Due to the vibrations, it is often difficult to hit the right "button" on the touch display. There needs to be some sort of vibration/shake "compensation" during driving but I haven't seen any car manufacturer coming up with a solution. The smaller the display, the more difficult it gets and it distracts from driving.
Voice control is the secret here, I think this is the best solution for driving. Maybe even without pressing a button, just saying a "code" word (like "Hello Siri" with Apple).
Oh and another thing: I love buttons in a sportscar, can't help it.
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11.12.2018 09:18:00
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
The problem with touch screens on vehicles is two find, one is the problem of the movement of the vehicle making it hard to hit the right button, but also that unlike physical buttons and nobs, you have to use your hand-eye coordination to direct the movent of your finger to hit the target, that takes a lot of concentration realstate for your brain, and while you are doing it you have to relinquish your awareness on driving for the duration and adjusting back to driving period since the brain cannot multitask those two tasks, that is why texting while driving is so dangerous. There is a reason race cars don't have touch screens and an F1 wheel is clouded with buttons, or a plain's cockpit. Unfortunately people are day by day getting more clueless about driving and more worried about doing other things while driving.
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11.12.2018 09:20:12
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
Carlos from Spain:The problem with touch screens on vehicles is two find, one is the problem of the movement of the vehicle making it hard to hit the right button, but also that unlike physical buttons and nobs, you have to use your hand-eye coordination to direct the movent of your finger to hit the target, that takes a lot of concentration realstate for your brain, and while you are doing it you have to relinquish your awareness on driving for the duration and adjusting back to driving period since the brain cannot multitask those two tasks, that is why texting while driving is so dangerous. There is a reason race cars don't have touch screens and an F1 wheel is clouded with buttons, or a plain's cockpit. Unfortunately people are day by day getting more clueless about driving and more worried about doing other things while driving.
Well said, Carlos... This could be "compensated" by technology but nobody came up with a solution (so far). Probably not important enough for car manufacturers to "bother", especially since this wouldn't be something customers would really "experience" first hand. It would just "work" and this is not something people usually want to pay for. 
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Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
+1 Fully agree. Great source of distraction . On the Panamera you seriously risk to crash while trying to setup the ventilation airflow. I don`t understand why the automakers don`t exploit more the combination of head up displays and smartly integrated buttons.
Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car
m4ever:+1 Fully agree. Great source of distraction . On the Panamera you seriously risk to crash while trying to setup the ventilation airflow. I don`t understand why the automakers don`t exploit more the combination of head up displays and smartly integrated buttons.
I'm not a fan of head-up displays, can't help it.
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