Oct 8, 2008 9:45:17 AM
- 184692
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Oct 8, 2008 9:45:17 AM
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franki68 said:
Isn't it irrelevant ? The NIssan has beaten the 997tt on every track that every magazine has tested it on,I think Porsche are actually embarrassing themselves with this.Every road test has preferred the gtr to the 997tt,surely Porsche should be addressing this issue by improving the 997tt and not sulking about it.
This is an inconvenient truth that some people prefer to ignore: The GTR laps faster than the Turbo in all independent tests.
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184692 said:
Porsche would do the same.
Porsche wouldn't have done something that stupid in the first place.
Let's not jump to the conclusion just yet, may be Nissan didn't lie
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franki68 said:
Isn't it irrelevant ? The NIssan has beaten the 997tt on every track that every magazine has tested it on,I think Porsche are actually embarrassing themselves with this.Every road test has preferred the gtr to the 997tt,surely Porsche should be addressing this issue by improving the 997tt and not sulking about it.
This is an inconvenient truth that some people prefer to ignore: The GTR laps faster than the Turbo in all independent tests.
Oct 8, 2008 7:41:09 PM
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reginos said:
Thanks AUM, very informative!
Do you represent Nissan in Germany?
or you are just a defender of the truth?
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cannga said:
All people here post about good AND bad aspects of the Porche Turbo. It's not a perfect car by any stretch of imaginatioin.
AUM has an interesting pattern of posting ONLY the bad news. I have been wondering for a while what his hidden agenda is.
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reginos said:
Thanks AUM, very informative!
Do you represent Nissan in Germany?
or you are just a defender of the truth?
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cannga said:
All people here post about good AND bad aspects of the Porche Turbo. It's not a perfect car by any stretch of imaginatioin.
AUM has an interesting pattern of posting ONLY the bad news. I have been wondering for a while what his hidden agenda is.
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reginos said:
Thanks AUM, very informative!
Do you represent Nissan in Germany?
or you are just a defender of the truth?
I am not a GTR fan although I do appreciate its performance. I am a Turbo owner who is interested in the truth. Some comments in this and other GTR threads make Porsche owners and fans sound immature and insecure.
The GTR laps faster than the Turbo. Get over it and ask more of Porsche.
Oct 9, 2008 5:01:21 PM
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AUM said:
The GTR laps faster than the Turbo. Get over it and ask more of Porsche.
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cannga said:
All people here post about good AND bad aspects of the Porche Turbo. It's not a perfect car by any stretch of imaginatioin.
AUM has an interesting pattern of posting ONLY the bad news. I have been wondering for a while what his hidden agenda is.
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reginos said:
Thanks AUM, very informative!
Do you represent Nissan in Germany?
or you are just a defender of the truth?
I am not a GTR fan although I do appreciate its performance. I am a Turbo owner who is interested in the truth. Some comments in this and other GTR threads make Porsche owners and fans sound immature and insecure.
The GTR laps faster than the Turbo. Get over it and ask more of Porsche.
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The GTR laps faster than the Turbo. Get over it and ask more of Porsche.
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I tend to ignore manufacturer claims and place more value on independent tests.
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I tend to ignore manufacturer claims and place more value on independent tests.
But you accept Nissan's Ring time claim? Thats the time in dispute here. Their claimed ring time beats Sport Auto times for the manufacturers I mentioned. Hence everyone being skeptical.
Oct 9, 2008 10:51:24 PM
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I tend to ignore manufacturer claims and place more value on independent tests.
But you accept Nissan's Ring time claim? Thats the time in dispute here. Their claimed ring time beats Sport Auto times for the manufacturers I mentioned. Hence everyone being skeptical.
No I do not believe (or disbelieve) Nissan's claim until we have more evidence. I prefer independent tests which all indicate that the GTR laps faster than the Turbo. This is the key fact that some Porsche owners are upset about, not the exact Ring time of the GTR.
Oct 9, 2008 10:51:47 PM
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* On April 17, 2008 the Nissan test team was back at the Nurburgring and recorded a new lap time of seven minutes and 29 seconds, several times.
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thuggy said:Quote:
AUM said:
I tend to ignore manufacturer claims and place more value on independent tests.
But you accept Nissan's Ring time claim? Thats the time in dispute here. Their claimed ring time beats Sport Auto times for the manufacturers I mentioned. Hence everyone being skeptical.
No I do not believe (or disbelieve) Nissan's claim until we have more evidence. I prefer independent tests which all indicate that the GTR laps faster than the Turbo. This is the key fact that some Porsche owners are upset about, not the exact Ring time of the GTR.
Oct 10, 2008 1:47:40 AM
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No I do not believe (or disbelieve) Nissan's claim until we have more evidence. I prefer independent tests which all indicate that the GTR laps faster than the Turbo. This is the key fact that some Porsche owners are upset about, not the exact Ring time of the GTR.
You seem to be the only one bringing that out over and over for some reason, yet everybody else is talking about Nissan lying on their claimed NRing lap time, and Porsche just being the one to call them out for it, not about GT-R vs 997TT lap times in other tracks and which is faster compared to the other.
Even worse, if you pay closer attention, nobody is even denying that the GT-R can lap the ring faster than the 997TT, thats still to be known until the Supertest, only that a 7:29 lap time is an insult to everybody's intelligence.
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I almost bought a 997 Turbo and I want the Turbo to beat the GTR. Hopefully the FL Turbo will do so convincingly.
I am not defending Nissan claims just introducing a little balance and a few facts into the somewhat hysterical Nissan witch hunt.