Re: California at the Paris show
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ed_moree said:
The California once the "new Ferrari factor is gone" it will be miles behind the Audi on impact looks alone.
And as many of you I also think this car is an fugly frog. Especially the back end!!! Oh dear... what have they done.... I mean in the older times they showed the new Ferrari and it was bang!!! nice i like it! Now all that I hear from all the Ferrari aficionados is "wait to see it on real" "You will like it latter" so much hard work to get used to this ugly frogs.....
You are not 100% correct here, because there were worse looking Ferraris in history. Think of the 365 GTC/4 of the early 70s and the 348 and the testarossa with the "grater" design on the sides,as three example I readily remember.
The California is too cute for a Ferrari with a dubious design of the rear. Little tall and narrow at the back, it looks stacked up like a multistoried structure when looked from behind. Another problem is that it doesn't look macho enough for many Ferrari lovers. It is little feminine and perhaps little gay in appearance if not in its abilities, which have not been tested yet by the public.
The Audi is a successful mid-engined design but its problem is the ubiquitous standard issue Audi grille at the front, because of which the "exotic" crowd cannot take it seriously when parked outside trendy clubs and casinos; until they try to catch one on a winding road, that is.
Yes but you misunderstand the wow factor: that is before you know what car is it, who makes it, the brand, being able to see the detail, so on... it has to make you say "WOW!!!". The Audi does it. I never heard or read of anybody to say no to that. That after that you start to criticise or you don't like the brand is another matter. And the Ferraris befre used to do exactly that. The Testarossa with it's design in the 1983 it did exactly that "WOW!!!" a big one! And everyone liked it, or not after that, but there was no need to start to explain people that this car is a Ferrari! You knew it! And that's the thing the last Ferrarisdon't have, is too much trying to explain why, what is the angles from which to be looked at... so on... And I'm also sure 100% that deep in the heart of the biggest Ferrari fan is a regret for how the California looks and the hard job they have to do to convince people that is a nice looking car. But being a Ferrari badge on the front bonnet....And again this car apart form the ugly rear end it lacks the "WOW!!!" factor.
Perhaps it is because people nowadays are used to seeing striking and different shapes(not always beautiful though) from many manufacturers, even mainstream ones. So people do not get easily excited and the WOW factor is difficult to arouse anymore.
In the 60s-80s and even in the early 90s normal cars were too plain, ordinary and boxy, so the few extravagant shapes(usually from the 3 italian exotics) stood out more.
In short people are saturated now and not easily pleased, visually or otherwise. In the past people were more hungry and impressionable.
The final point I'd make on this particular car is that it has been designed to attract new buyers to the brand. For many people the F430 is too conspicuous and not a viable proposition as a daily use car. The California is not a wow, look at me design for this very reason. It lacks the initial beauty of an Aston Vantage or Maserati GranTurismo but it may just age better as a result of being a design that grows on you. Time will tell.
