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Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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Emperor said:
Good lord what a price. That is bound to cost a fortune in countries where cars are taxed based on displacement and weight.
Your comment is well, strange, specially if we compare its natural competitor Cayenne Turbo S...
Euro 132.774,00 with Mwst. Germany
0-100km/h:4.8s
Max: 280km/h
2355kg
358g/km CO2 emission
BTW, Audi Q7 V12 TDI CO2 emission is 298g/km...
With same equipment level CTS is about Euro 12K more expensive...
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
Emperor said:
Good lord what a price. That is bound to cost a fortune in countries where cars are taxed based on displacement and weight.
Your comment is well, strange, specially if we compare its natural competitor Cayenne Turbo S...
Euro 132.774,00 with Mwst. Germany
0-100km/h:4.8s
Max: 280km/h
2355kg
358g/km CO2 emission
BTW, Audi Q7 V12 TDI CO2 emission is 298g/km...
With same equipment level CTS is about Euro 12K more expensive...
I would be interested in how the Q7V12 feels (throttle response, vibrations of the engine, sound, power delivery over the rev range). However, if I had to choose between CTS and Q7V12 I would probably go for the CTS. Having said that, I am not a SUV customer at all. So everything is just theory in my case
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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MKSGR said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:Quote:
Emperor said:
Good lord what a price. That is bound to cost a fortune in countries where cars are taxed based on displacement and weight.
Your comment is well, strange, specially if we compare its natural competitor Cayenne Turbo S...
Euro 132.774,00 with Mwst. Germany
0-100km/h:4.8s
Max: 280km/h
2355kg
358g/km CO2 emission
BTW, Audi Q7 V12 TDI CO2 emission is 298g/km...
With same equipment level CTS is about Euro 12K more expensive...
I would be interested in how the Q7V12 feels (throttle response, vibrations of the engine, sound, power delivery over the rev range). However, if I had to choose between CTS and Q7V12 I would probably go for the CTS. Having said that, I am not a SUV customer at all. So everything is just theory in my case
Fully agree regarding SUVs in general!
I am as you are very interesting to try Q7 V12 TDI just to see how it drives...
For me of course RS6 Sedan!
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
MKSGR said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:Quote:
Emperor said:
Good lord what a price. That is bound to cost a fortune in countries where cars are taxed based on displacement and weight.
Your comment is well, strange, specially if we compare its natural competitor Cayenne Turbo S...
Euro 132.774,00 with Mwst. Germany
0-100km/h:4.8s
Max: 280km/h
2355kg
358g/km CO2 emission
BTW, Audi Q7 V12 TDI CO2 emission is 298g/km...
With same equipment level CTS is about Euro 12K more expensive...
I would be interested in how the Q7V12 feels (throttle response, vibrations of the engine, sound, power delivery over the rev range). However, if I had to choose between CTS and Q7V12 I would probably go for the CTS. Having said that, I am not a SUV customer at all. So everything is just theory in my case
Fully agree regarding SUVs in general!
I am as you are very interesting to try Q7 V12 TDI just to see how it drives...
For me of course RS6 Sedan!
A man of exquisite taste!
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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SciFrog said:
Owning an 04 CTT and a 4.2 Q7, I don't see how the Q7 will come even close in ... interior quality...
Are you serious ? The quality and feel of the pebbly plastic on the panels and doors of the Cayenne are worse than on the pre-1990 model year 986 and 996 , if that's possible.
Sep 8, 2008 2:47:20 PM
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Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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Ron (Houston) said:
Will this be available in the U.S. ?
Most likely not. Audi are already in the process of building their image in the US, Diesel is very unpopular and the car is slower than the 66% cheaper and more agile Cayenne Turbo. Marketing the car in the US wouldn't be worth the very handful of cars they would manage to sell in there.
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
That is very expensive. I think the biggest issue is, it is a big leap in price from the next cheapest Q7. Based on prices of the CTT S and Q7 4.2 here, would it be accurate to say that the V12 TDI is double the price of the next most expensive Q7? And 75% more than a ML63! I think Emperor is just about right. Outside of Russia and China where SUV and new money is in abundance, Audi will sell 12 of these. Mike S will be one of the buyers outside of Russia and China. 
Sep 8, 2008 3:47:40 PM
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Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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Emperor said:Quote:
Ron (Houston) said:
Will this be available in the U.S. ?
Most likely not. Audi are already in the process of building their image in the US, Diesel is very unpopular and the car is slower than the 66% cheaper and more agile Cayenne Turbo. Marketing the car in the US wouldn't be worth the very handful of cars they would manage to sell in there.
Depends on the price Audi will set for the US. If I am not mistaken, the CTTS is just as expensive in Europe.
Anyway, Kreso, what's the gas mileage on this car?
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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Emperor said:Quote:
Ron (Houston) said:
Will this be available in the U.S. ?
Most likely not. Audi are already in the process of building their image in the US, Diesel is very unpopular and the car is slower than the 66% cheaper and more agile Cayenne Turbo. Marketing the car in the US wouldn't be worth the very handful of cars they would manage to sell in there.
Depends on the price Audi will set for the US. If I am not mistaken, the CTTS is just as expensive in Europe.
Anyway, Kreso, what's the gas mileage on this car?
Kraftstoffverbrauch (1999/100/EG)
städtisch 14,8 l
außerstädtisch 9,3 l
insgesamt 11,3 l
CO2-Emissionen 298 g/km
Emissionsklasse (94/12/EG) EU4
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
Emperor said:Quote:
Ron (Houston) said:
Will this be available in the U.S. ?
Most likely not. Audi are already in the process of building their image in the US, Diesel is very unpopular and the car is slower than the 66% cheaper and more agile Cayenne Turbo. Marketing the car in the US wouldn't be worth the very handful of cars they would manage to sell in there.
Depends on the price Audi will set for the US. If I am not mistaken, the CTTS is just as expensive in Europe.
Anyway, Kreso, what's the gas mileage on this car?
Kraftstoffverbrauch (1999/100/EG)
städtisch 14,8 l
außerstädtisch 9,3 l
insgesamt 11,3 l
CO2-Emissionen 298 g/km
Emissionsklasse (94/12/EG) EU4
That's comparable to the V6 Cayenne, I reckon. Not bad at all!
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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Crash said:Quote:
Emperor said:Quote:
Ron (Houston) said:
Will this be available in the U.S. ?
Most likely not. Audi are already in the process of building their image in the US, Diesel is very unpopular and the car is slower than the 66% cheaper and more agile Cayenne Turbo. Marketing the car in the US wouldn't be worth the very handful of cars they would manage to sell in there.
Depends on the price Audi will set for the US. If I am not mistaken, the CTTS is just as expensive in Europe.
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Exactly. The car is 130k in Europe and it's going to be such as much in the US but in dollars. Further more the depreciating value of the dollar means that Audi wouldn't any money on the car since they would be selling so few of them in the US. It's just not worth it. Barely any of the three big German manufacturers markets or sell their diesel cars in the US.
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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Discover said:
So the only question is...
When will Mike_S get his?
I forgot I had a deposit down for one
Have they released final images of what the production model will look like Kreso? With soaring diesel prices, it will be far less attractive then what the V10 Touareg TDi was when it was first launched.
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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Mike S said:Quote:
Discover said:
So the only question is...
When will Mike_S get his?
I forgot I had a deposit down for one
Have they released final images of what the production model will look like Kreso? With soaring diesel prices, it will be far less attractive then what the V10 Touareg TDi was when it was first launched.
http://www.netcarshow.com/audi/2009-q7_v12_tdi/
Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
Mike S said:Quote:
Discover said:
So the only question is...
When will Mike_S get his?
I forgot I had a deposit down for one
Have they released final images of what the production model will look like Kreso? With soaring diesel prices, it will be far less attractive then what the V10 Touareg TDi was when it was first launched.
http://www.netcarshow.com/audi/2009-q7_v12_tdi/
Thanks Kreso!
I don't know if it will be a design flaw, but to have the exhaust tips sitting so flush and close to the bumper could be irritating with a diesel. The surrounds are going to be covered with black soet (sp?)!
Have they released official hp/nm figures?
Sep 9, 2008 9:29:32 AM
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Re: Audi Q7 V12 TDI...
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SciFrog said:
Cayenne TURBO, all leather and alcantara, gorgeous...
Regardless of the leather appointments, the car's interior is nothing to write home about. I like the Q7's interior better but then again it may be that I'm sick of looking at my Cayenne's interior.
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