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Thanks so much for taking the time! I realize that you chose Tip over the manual for your turbo. I wonder if you were not a fan of Tipronic, if you would still favor PDK so much?
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Christian: Excellent review! Thanks.
I think that the tempest in a glass of water re the new paddles is just that. I actually prefer the dual up/down on both sides - I have that in my Vette and it works well. I also like the ability to change in the stick. Why did PAG do this? to be unique? perhaps - they always have been unique - see key on the left side. After all there are the BMW and Ferrari models and those are different too. At the end of the day it's a user-interface issue and it's not so difficult to adapt to it, unless you constantly also drive a BMW and a Ferrari, but those people are in the minority, so who cares?
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Thanks so much for taking the time! I realize that you chose Tip over the manual for your turbo. I wonder if you were not a fan of Tipronic, if you would still favor PDK so much?
I'm not a fan of Tiptronic, never was. I just always said that Tiptronic works pretty well in the 997 Turbo, I would have never bought Tiptronic in a Carrera for example. My wife had a Boxster S with Tiptronic and although it worked well, I didn't really liked it better than manual.
For the Turbo, Tiptronic is a good choice for various reasons but I guess this claim will hunt me even into my grave.
Btw: the Tiptronic in my 997 Turbo was the first time in my LIFE I had an automatic tranny in a Porsche or sportscar. Always drove manual before, just as a little sidenote.
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devo said:As well as being unique, the left side ignition switch has a bit of history behind it. It was initially located on the left so that when race drivers ran to their cars on the starting grid, the driver could simultaneously place the key into the ignition cylinder while entering the car, which facilitated a faster start off.
Jul 22, 2008 9:46:30 PM
Jul 23, 2008 12:08:19 AM
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nberry said:In about five years, as I have written so often, the manual will be only for those that still own manual typewriters.
Jul 23, 2008 1:59:16 AM
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nberry said:In about five years, as I have written so often, the manual will be only for those that still own manual typewriters.
Yes, when was the first time you came up with that prediction? 5 years ago already? anyway your predictions aren't exactly nostradamus material when it comes to Porsche because your anti-anything-related-to-porsche bias blinds you, shall we revise your prediction about the cayenne at the beginning? or the 997 3 years ago? ... when was Porsche going to suffer and go bankrupt again? 5 years?
seriously, no matter how good performancewise is the auto-tranny, that will not float with 100% of the customers because in street cars there is also the fun factor, and removing the clutch and stick out of the ecuation is removing part of the fun of driving for some drivers, and no precisely the older ones. Two each his own, and thats why there is still a choice of manual in the Lambo, M3, Porsche, Ferrari, R8, etc. yet they all have good secuential boxes available.
Jul 23, 2008 2:45:11 PM
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thank you RC
we are yet to see the FL here in OZ. and am keeping my options open till I see that car.
unfortunately my budget can only stretch to a 997, not S.
how does it compare with the Gen I 997. i know 20bhp is nothing to get excited about. but would u say the Gen2 997 would be very similiar with Gen1 997S???
Jul 23, 2008 6:31:27 PM
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I drove for 20 minuts a 997S mk2 coupe' with -20 lsd / PDK / sportchrono ...
Sergini, how did the chasis/suspensions of the mk2 PASM-20mm/lsd feel compared to the mk1-20mm/lsd?
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I drove for 20 minuts a 997S mk2 coupe' with -20 lsd / PDK / sportchrono ...
Sergini, how did the chasis/suspensions of the mk2 PASM-20mm/lsd feel compared to the mk1-20mm/lsd?
I'm also curious about this question since I had a -20mm lsd sports chassie 997 mk1 Carrera S. The ride was very firm and stiff and I never think of buying the same setup again. Just LSD is fine for me which was the main reason I had gone for the sports chassie at first.
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I'm also curious about this question since I had a -20mm lsd sports chassie 997 mk1 Carrera S. The ride was very firm and stiff and I never think of buying the same setup again. Just LSD is fine for me which was the main reason I had gone for the sports chassie at first.
From my experience with the Boxster and 911 sports chassis,they become very uncomfortable and harsh at times if you drive on less than perfect roads especially at lower speeds.
Now that the LSD is an option on its own I would never get the -20mm anywhere outside Germany or similar quality of roads.
Jul 24, 2008 7:37:35 PM
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I'm also curious about this question since I had a -20mm lsd sports chassie 997 mk1 Carrera S. The ride was very firm and stiff and I never think of buying the same setup again. Just LSD is fine for me which was the main reason I had gone for the sports chassie at first.
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From my experience with the Boxster and 911 sports chassis,they become very uncomfortable and harsh at times if you drive on less than perfect roads especially at lower speeds.
Now that the LSD is an option on its own I would never get the -20mm anywhere outside Germany or similar quality of roads.
Jul 26, 2008 12:49:05 PM
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I'm also curious about this question since I had a -20mm lsd sports chassie 997 mk1 Carrera S. The ride was very firm and stiff and I never think of buying the same setup again. Just LSD is fine for me which was the main reason I had gone for the sports chassie at first.
I guess a lot depends on the roads and personal preference, for me the -20mm/lsd on the MkI is perfect stiffness, I wouldn't want it any softer at all.