nberry:Whoopsy:Here is more bad news for you, factory is closing from July 16th to Sept 14th.
Even if they finish your car this Friday, no one will be validating it until Sept 17th.
WTF? If Porsche holds off finishing these cars until September and ships them to the US, the Trump tariffs may be in place by then. If that happens many of us will not take delivery given another $50,000 will be added to the price.
Welcome to the land where gouging people with money is acceptable. My own government just raised the sales tax on cars by 10% back in April. From 15% to 25%.
Whoopsy:My own government just raised the sales tax on cars by 10% back in April. From 15% to 25%.
That's actually a tax increase of almost 67%
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MY dealer says the factory will close the 23th until August 17th.
BTW, I still pay a sales tax of 8% on top of the tariff. Not an issue for me because I would never pay the tariff. I'll keep my 2GT3.
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Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.
Grant:Whoopsy:My own government just raised the sales tax on cars by 10% back in April. From 15% to 25%.
That's actually a tax increase of almost 67%
Tell me about it.
It's now a multi-tiered system.
Above $150,000CAD, it's 25%
Between $125,000 and $150,000, it's 20%
Between $57,000 and $125,000, it's 15%
Up to $55,000 it's 12% Up to $56,000 it's 13%, Up to $57,000 it's 14%
nberry:MY dealer says the factory will close the 23th until August 17th.
BTW, I still pay a sales tax of 8% on top of the tariff. Not an issue for me because I would never pay the tariff. I'll keep my 2GT3.
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Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.
You dealer don't have the correct information.
I had asked them for a factory tour on the 23rd of July, I was told they are closed, so I asked about the 17th, and the reply is that the factory is closed from July 16th to Sept 14th.
11-lug-2018 20.52.11
nberry:Whoopsy:Here is more bad news for you, factory is closing from July 16th to Sept 14th.
Even if they finish your car this Friday, no one will be validating it until Sept 17th.
WTF? If Porsche holds off finishing these cars until September and ships them to the US, the Trump tariffs may be in place by then. If that happens many of us will not take delivery given another $50,000 will be added to the price.
I doubt seriously that there will be a Trump tarrif on your car. I think we have seen him negotiate enough and we have seen enough cries of wolf to be a little less concerned. Especially with it being the wolf doing the wolf crying.
11-lug-2018 21.00.11
11-lug-2018 21.07.34
nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
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2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White
nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
Leipzig already closed last Friday at 15:00. I know because I was among the last factory visit guests that morning and the guide told us.
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bluelines:nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
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He will Whoop arse ..
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11-lug-2018 22.26.39
Gauss:nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
Leipzig already closed last Friday at 15:00. I know because I was among the last factory visit guests that morning and the guide told us.
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I think we should rent the space and put some cars together. I can take a couple weeks off. GT3 with manual, no wing and backseat - mid engined - anyone? It will be like build a bear but for Porsche’s. I think Whoopsy can make it happen.
nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
Nick, you do realize Porsche only have 2 factories right? Leipzig and Zuffenhausen.
And GT cars are made on the exact same line as the other 911s, 718s in Zuffenhausen.
I was gonna take my son to visit Zuffenhausen as he is coming with me to Nurburgring to watch me race, but now he will have to settle for visiting the Museum instead.
bluelines:nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
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Dude I am not RC!
Nick, my SA named another factory or facility which I didn't recognize. I believe it started with an O.
He'd told me he was reading from a bulletin dated July 5th. I spoke with PCNA and they didn't know anything. I sent an email to Germany. Hopefully I'll get a response.I should have sent it in your name to assure a response.
Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.
Whoopsy:bluelines:nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
Whoopsy is now a moderator. Stop arguing with him. Even when wrong he is right
Dude I am not RC!
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2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White
12-lug-2018 3.06.14
Leawood911:Maybe they need to build a tent?
Pretty funny, and get Musk to motivate the troops!
And Nick,
a tax is a tax, they all suck whether a tariff, sales tax, income tax, fees on real estate and car registration, property tax......... but Germany will do anything to avoid a US car tariff.... Be glad the US has so many legal ways around sales tax and fees, those of us with GST/VAT are fk'd, just like you would be with a tariff... in fact it would just true up US Porsche prices to global
Example: GT3 NZ price [steel brakes] $320,000 = $224,000 USD
USD price [with PCCB] $163,000 USD + sales tax 0-8.25% depending on state or $163,000 to $177,000 about the tariff for you in CA.... with PCCB thrown in free, ignoring the tariff is charged pre sales tax for simplicity
Whoopsy:nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
Nick, you do realize Porsche only have 2 factories right? Leipzig and Zuffenhausen.
And GT cars are made on the exact same line as the other 911s, 718s in Zuffenhausen.
I was gonna take my son to visit Zuffenhausen as he is coming with me to Nurburgring to watch me race, but now he will have to settle for visiting the Museum instead.
Bratislava is the 3rd factory. Cayenne's comes from Bratislava.
12-lug-2018 5.27.06
Whoopsy:nberry:MY dealer says the factory will close the 23th until August 17th.
BTW, I still pay a sales tax of 8% on top of the tariff. Not an issue for me because I would never pay the tariff. I'll keep my 2GT3.
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Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.
You dealer don't have the correct information.
I had asked them for a factory tour on the 23rd of July, I was told they are closed, so I asked about the 17th, and the reply is that the factory is closed from July 16th to Sept 14th.
But,so why they put on my car end production the 25th july, if they close the 16th?
I hope there is something wrong...i hope.
997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS
12-lug-2018 5.27.54
bluelines:nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
Whoopsy is now a moderator. Stop arguing with him. Even when wrong he is right
HAHAHAHHAHHHAHA
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nberry:Nick, my SA named another factory or facility which I didn't recognize. I believe it started with an O.
He'd told me he was reading from a bulletin dated July 5th. I spoke with PCNA and they didn't know anything. I sent an email to Germany. Hopefully I'll get a response.I should have sent it in your name to assure a
Osnabrück?
12-lug-2018 9.39.13
Super Darius:Whoopsy:nberry:MY dealer says the factory will close the 23th until August 17th.
BTW, I still pay a sales tax of 8% on top of the tariff. Not an issue for me because I would never pay the tariff. I'll keep my 2GT3.
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Being adventurous can be risky but routine is lethal.
You dealer don't have the correct information.
I had asked them for a factory tour on the 23rd of July, I was told they are closed, so I asked about the 17th, and the reply is that the factory is closed from July 16th to Sept 14th.
But,so why they put on my car end production the 25th july, if they close the 16th?
I hope there is something wrong...i hope.
My car is this week at exclusive and will be shipped next week , if all is a according to plan. So something will still be working next week ......
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12-lug-2018 9.59.39
Whoopsy:bluelines:nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
Whoopsy is now a moderator. Stop arguing with him. Even when wrong he is right
Dude I am not RC!
Hey...
When was I ever wrong?
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911tts:Whoopsy:nberry:MY dealer just gave me an update. Zuffenhuasen where they make the GT cars closes August 6th. The two other factories have different closing dates. One already closed.
Nick, you do realize Porsche only have 2 factories right? Leipzig and Zuffenhausen.
And GT cars are made on the exact same line as the other 911s, 718s in Zuffenhausen.
I was gonna take my son to visit Zuffenhausen as he is coming with me to Nurburgring to watch me race, but now he will have to settle for visiting the Museum instead.
Bratislava is the 3rd factory. Cayenne's comes from Bratislava.
Technically that's a VW factory, as the Toureg is built there too.