CloseMay 16, 2008 5:39:16 PM
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nberry said:
this will not play well with most automobile enthusiast.
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080516/FREE/96374118/1528/newsletter01
May 16, 2008 6:04:45 PM
May 16, 2008 6:52:25 PM
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nberry said:
this will not play well with most automobile enthusiast.
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080516/FREE/96374118/1528/newsletter01
I agree that the issue is moot. 1500 units a year into the US of this unbelievable, industry-changing monster of an engineering feat and they've only pre-sold 900 of them so far. Yawn... That makes 900 "enthusiasts" in total, minus the speculators of course.
The best thing about this car appears to be the hype Nissan can generate with it.
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thuggy said:
They better up the presales before people start getting their hands of them and start to discover that it might not quite live up to all they hype.
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edz said:
This makes no sense, Nissan can make 10 of these per year it will never be a classic no matter what so why not make more?
May 16, 2008 9:18:47 PM
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Heist said:
What in the ignorant hell?! Hype? Are you not seeing the numbers? Are you not reading the world wide reviews?
The car hasn't even hit the states yet and the allocation is already 60% sold out for a car that has never been in the United States, has zero heritage/fellowship in North America (beyond a few people who were lucky enough to gray market them in), and is coming from a manufacturer that is not known for playing in this price point.
Yes, from a styling standpoint - it's not everyone's cup of tea - but you can't argue with the numbers.
I think it's a pretty telling statement.
May 16, 2008 9:19:41 PM
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SciFrog said:
900 doesn't sound like a lot. How many M5 are sold per year?
My theory: the GTR is primarily admired by those who cannot afford buying it...
May 16, 2008 9:37:18 PM
May 16, 2008 9:39:14 PM
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SciFrog said:
900 doesn't sound like a lot. How many M5 are sold per year?
My theory: the GTR is primarily admired by those who cannot afford buying it...
Bingo.
) it proved to be as good in real-world series-production form as it has been hyped up to being.
May 16, 2008 9:41:29 PM
May 16, 2008 10:48:30 PM
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SciFrog said:
900 doesn't sound like a lot. How many M5 are sold per year?
My theory: the GTR is primarily admired by those who cannot afford buying it...
Bingo. Porsche sold over 12,000 911's in 2006 in North America. That's 12000 people who have the means to spend $80K on a car, just not GT-R's I guess. The car just doesn't seem to 'do it' for the majority of people with the money to buy one, and those are the ones that count, aren't they? That's the true measure of the car.
May 16, 2008 11:30:02 PM
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Heist said:
Think if Porsche sold out 60% of the Cayenne ..
BMW the Mini ...
Or VW the Phaeton ...
All of which were pretty radical departures for their respective brands.
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thuggy said:
They better up the presales before people start getting their hands of them and start to discover that it might not quite live up to all they hype.
60% sold through, with gas prices the way they are, and the state of the American economy...I think Nissan's done a pretty admirable job without investing a single dollar in marketing development funds.
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nberry said:
The GT-R looks to me like a great track car. It will humiliate all the super cars for a lot less money right out of the box.
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nberry said:
The GT-R looks to me like a great track car. It will humiliate all the super cars for a lot less money right out of the box.
Yes but the GTR is too heavy and hard on tires and brakes for regular track use. There are faster, lighter, cheaper and much more fun track cars like the Radical SR4. http://www.radicalsportscars.com/range/sr4/sr4.php
And if you bought and tracked a Radical your Rennteam status would rise dramatically.
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JimFlat6 said:
How odd.
You give Nissan a complete pass about the credibility of their claims.
Kool Aide is best chilled!
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thuggy said:
They better up the presales before people start getting their hands of them and start to discover that it might not quite live up to all they hype.
60% sold through, with gas prices the way they are, and the state of the American economy...I think Nissan's done a pretty admirable job without investing a single dollar in marketing development funds.
Undisguised test cars making laps shadowed by a 997TT for all the spy photographers to shoot. Hopped up test cars making their way around the world to seemingly any magazine willing to rave about it, truly unbelievable ring times flying all over the web and you don't think Nissan has spent any marketing money?
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JimFlat6 said:
How odd.
You give Nissan a complete pass about the credibility of their claims.
Kool Aide is best chilled!
Jim, no Kool Aide. Magazines that got there hands on the GT-R, after running their own independent tests, have generally all come to the conclusion that Nissan is UNDEREPORTING the car's numbers.
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