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Georgie997S said:
Checking the data above someone can come to a single conclusion. Technologically the car is a failure. We can see some horsepower gains but be sure that there will be weight increase too. So what seems to be the difference between the new one and the older model? Fuel consumption maybe? Performance specs also point out a "weak" car towards competition. For example E92 M3 will definitely smoke this AM anytime anyplace. And new M3's engine capacity is 0.7lt less than AM's. I personally wouldn't buy this car due to reliability issues and bad performance. If the word "awesome" stands for good design then yes the car is awesome. If the same word stands for performance, I definitely disagree. Moreover, take it on the track, then you'll definitely see a lot of other cars' tail lights...

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Georgie997S said:
Checking the data above someone can come to a single conclusion. Technologically the car is a failure. We can see some horsepower gains but be sure that there will be weight increase too. So what seems to be the difference between the new one and the older model? Fuel consumption maybe? Performance specs also point out a "weak" car towards competition. For example E92 M3 will definitely smoke this AM anytime anyplace. And new M3's engine capacity is 0.7lt less than AM's. I personally wouldn't buy this car due to reliability issues and bad performance. If the word "awesome" stands for good design then yes the car is awesome. If the same word stands for performance, I definitely disagree. Moreover, take it on the track, then you'll definitely see a lot of other cars' tail lights...

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Marwan Arakji said:
what about exterior changes? any touch-ups??

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Georgie997S said:
Checking the data above someone can come to a single conclusion. Technologically the car is a failure. We can see some horsepower gains but be sure that there will be weight increase too. So what seems to be the difference between the new one and the older model? Fuel consumption maybe? Performance specs also point out a "weak" car towards competition. For example E92 M3 will definitely smoke this AM anytime anyplace. And new M3's engine capacity is 0.7lt less than AM's. I personally wouldn't buy this car due to reliability issues and bad performance. If the word "awesome" stands for good design then yes the car is awesome. If the same word stands for performance, I definitely disagree. Moreover, take it on the track, then you'll definitely see a lot of other cars' tail lights...

+1 never liked AM's not realiable in any way or form

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... Happy to see AM making changes every year and listening to costumers. Porsche could learn a lesson there.

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Georgie997S said:
Checking the data above someone can come to a single conclusion. Technologically the car is a failure. We can see some horsepower gains but be sure that there will be weight increase too. So what seems to be the difference between the new one and the older model? Fuel consumption maybe? Performance specs also point out a "weak" car towards competition. For example E92 M3 will definitely smoke this AM anytime anyplace. And new M3's engine capacity is 0.7lt less than AM's. I personally wouldn't buy this car due to reliability issues and bad performance. If the word "awesome" stands for good design then yes the car is awesome. If the same word stands for performance, I definitely disagree. Moreover, take it on the track, then you'll definitely see a lot of other cars' tail lights...

+1 never liked AM's not realiable in any way or form

What problems did you have with yours? Mine has been 100% reliable in every way and form.

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SciFrog said:


Sorry but the Jag doesn't do it for me... Lacking a touch of class somehow can't explain it.

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Georgie997S said:
Checking the data above someone can come to a single conclusion. Technologically the car is a failure. We can see some horsepower gains but be sure that there will be weight increase too. So what seems to be the difference between the new one and the older model? Fuel consumption maybe? Performance specs also point out a "weak" car towards competition. For example E92 M3 will definitely smoke this AM anytime anyplace. And new M3's engine capacity is 0.7lt less than AM's. I personally wouldn't buy this car due to reliability issues and bad performance. If the word "awesome" stands for good design then yes the car is awesome. If the same word stands for performance, I definitely disagree. Moreover, take it on the track, then you'll definitely see a lot of other cars' tail lights...

Have you seen it in real?
Have you sat in?
Have you heard it?
Have you tried it?

Cars are more than performance on a piece of paper, else we would all be driving Nissans... M3? Come on, here someone buying a AMV8 won't even consider buying an M3, sad but true. And the M3 isn't really faster anyway...

Back on the 09, nice improvements, but not enough to jump from an 08 Roadster to an 09. Extra torque at low RPM is nice, not a huge fan of the new console. If you wanted huge torque you would get a 997TT anyway.

Happy to see AM making changes every year and listening to costumers. Porsche could learn a lesson there.

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SciFrog said:

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Georgie997S said:
Checking the data above someone can come to a single conclusion. Technologically the car is a failure. We can see some horsepower gains but be sure that there will be weight increase too. So what seems to be the difference between the new one and the older model? Fuel consumption maybe? Performance specs also point out a "weak" car towards competition. For example E92 M3 will definitely smoke this AM anytime anyplace. And new M3's engine capacity is 0.7lt less than AM's. I personally wouldn't buy this car due to reliability issues and bad performance. If the word "awesome" stands for good design then yes the car is awesome. If the same word stands for performance, I definitely disagree. Moreover, take it on the track, then you'll definitely see a lot of other cars' tail lights...

Have you seen it in real?
Have you sat in?
Have you heard it?
Have you tried it?

Cars are more than performance on a piece of paper, else we would all be driving Nissans... M3? Come on, here someone buying a AMV8 won't even consider buying an M3, sad but true. And the M3 isn't really faster anyway...

Back on the 09, nice improvements, but not enough to jump from an 08 Roadster to an 09. Extra torque at low RPM is nice, not a huge fan of the new console. If you wanted huge torque you would get a 997TT anyway.

Happy to see AM making changes every year and listening to costumers. Porsche could learn a lesson there.

When you spend a reasonable amount of money for a performance car then sitting in the car, watching the car, admiring the car, hearing the car is simply NOT ENOUGH. A Ferrari sounds incredible but it's definitely a performance car too. When you spend; you demand. That's the way it goes for all products including cars. If I had bought an AM I wouldn't want an M3 smoking me, although you underestimate the car... Sorry if I offended any AM fans, but this car shouldn't have been labeled as a performance car. It's not anyway. I think that the only person that would vote AM to be a winner among other performance cars is Jeremy Clarkson and maybe some actor in a James Bond movie...

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Georgie997S said:

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Georgie997S said:
Checking the data above someone can come to a single conclusion. Technologically the car is a failure. We can see some horsepower gains but be sure that there will be weight increase too. So what seems to be the difference between the new one and the older model? Fuel consumption maybe? Performance specs also point out a "weak" car towards competition. For example E92 M3 will definitely smoke this AM anytime anyplace. And new M3's engine capacity is 0.7lt less than AM's. I personally wouldn't buy this car due to reliability issues and bad performance. If the word "awesome" stands for good design then yes the car is awesome. If the same word stands for performance, I definitely disagree. Moreover, take it on the track, then you'll definitely see a lot of other cars' tail lights...

Have you seen it in real?
Have you sat in?
Have you heard it?
Have you tried it?

Cars are more than performance on a piece of paper, else we would all be driving Nissans... M3? Come on, here someone buying a AMV8 won't even consider buying an M3, sad but true. And the M3 isn't really faster anyway...

Back on the 09, nice improvements, but not enough to jump from an 08 Roadster to an 09. Extra torque at low RPM is nice, not a huge fan of the new console. If you wanted huge torque you would get a 997TT anyway.

Happy to see AM making changes every year and listening to costumers. Porsche could learn a lesson there.

When you spend a reasonable amount of money for a performance car then sitting in the car, watching the car, admiring the car, hearing the car is simply NOT ENOUGH. A Ferrari sounds incredible but it's definitely a performance car too. When you spend; you demand. That's the way it goes for all products including cars. If I had bought an AM I wouldn't want an M3 smoking me, although you underestimate the car... Sorry if I offended any AM fans, but this car shouldn't have been labeled as a performance car. It's not anyway. I think that the only person that would vote AM to be a winner among other performance cars is Jeremy Clarkson and maybe some actor in a James Bond movie...

Is your opinion based on personal experiance or is just based on assumptions? Did you actualy drove one and raced it against an M3? where you disaointed in the way the AMV8 drives? I am not trying to be funny all I want is understand you point of view because I dont want to make an expancive mistake by regrating my purchase.

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yarub1 said:

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Georgie997S said:

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SciFrog said:

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Georgie997S said:
Checking the data above someone can come to a single conclusion. Technologically the car is a failure. We can see some horsepower gains but be sure that there will be weight increase too. So what seems to be the difference between the new one and the older model? Fuel consumption maybe? Performance specs also point out a "weak" car towards competition. For example E92 M3 will definitely smoke this AM anytime anyplace. And new M3's engine capacity is 0.7lt less than AM's. I personally wouldn't buy this car due to reliability issues and bad performance. If the word "awesome" stands for good design then yes the car is awesome. If the same word stands for performance, I definitely disagree. Moreover, take it on the track, then you'll definitely see a lot of other cars' tail lights...

Have you seen it in real?
Have you sat in?
Have you heard it?
Have you tried it?

Cars are more than performance on a piece of paper, else we would all be driving Nissans... M3? Come on, here someone buying a AMV8 won't even consider buying an M3, sad but true. And the M3 isn't really faster anyway...

Back on the 09, nice improvements, but not enough to jump from an 08 Roadster to an 09. Extra torque at low RPM is nice, not a huge fan of the new console. If you wanted huge torque you would get a 997TT anyway.

Happy to see AM making changes every year and listening to costumers. Porsche could learn a lesson there.

When you spend a reasonable amount of money for a performance car then sitting in the car, watching the car, admiring the car, hearing the car is simply NOT ENOUGH. A Ferrari sounds incredible but it's definitely a performance car too. When you spend; you demand. That's the way it goes for all products including cars. If I had bought an AM I wouldn't want an M3 smoking me, although you underestimate the car... Sorry if I offended any AM fans, but this car shouldn't have been labeled as a performance car. It's not anyway. I think that the only person that would vote AM to be a winner among other performance cars is Jeremy Clarkson and maybe some actor in a James Bond movie...

Is your opinion based on personal experiance or is just based on assumptions? Did you actualy drove one and raced it against an M3? where you disaointed in the way the AMV8 drives? I am not trying to be funny all I want is understand you point of view because I dont want to make an expancive mistake by regrating my purchase.

Yarub, I've got a friend that works in a famous car magazine and he actually drove quite a lot AMs. He's got a decent opinion for EVERY car just because he is the first to drive every car that is out in the market. If you talk to him about AMs he will reply like this: "I can't find a single reason for someone to choose an AM instead of ANY other car". When he test drove the AM lately he found out that that the car on the track was a disaster. He contacted AM dealer and explained the whole situation to him, regarding car's set-up and chassis. The dealer replied "no, it might be a coincidence or a faulty car... I'll check with AM to see what's wrong and I'll get back to you". He never replied... . My personal experience with AM is that I keep watching the car and see how it performs on the track towards other weaker cars and find the results awful. Also if you take the AM for a race against a 997 S (355hp) which is supposed to be a weaker car, you'll be surprised to see that the 997S will smoke the Aston. I won't talk about getting it on the track, 'cause there it will be a disaster for AM... Sorry but, that's the way it is really.

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Georgie997S said:

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yarub1 said:

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Georgie997S said:

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Georgie997S said:
Checking the data above someone can come to a single conclusion. Technologically the car is a failure. We can see some horsepower gains but be sure that there will be weight increase too. So what seems to be the difference between the new one and the older model? Fuel consumption maybe? Performance specs also point out a "weak" car towards competition. For example E92 M3 will definitely smoke this AM anytime anyplace. And new M3's engine capacity is 0.7lt less than AM's. I personally wouldn't buy this car due to reliability issues and bad performance. If the word "awesome" stands for good design then yes the car is awesome. If the same word stands for performance, I definitely disagree. Moreover, take it on the track, then you'll definitely see a lot of other cars' tail lights...

Have you seen it in real?
Have you sat in?
Have you heard it?
Have you tried it?

Cars are more than performance on a piece of paper, else we would all be driving Nissans... M3? Come on, here someone buying a AMV8 won't even consider buying an M3, sad but true. And the M3 isn't really faster anyway...

Back on the 09, nice improvements, but not enough to jump from an 08 Roadster to an 09. Extra torque at low RPM is nice, not a huge fan of the new console. If you wanted huge torque you would get a 997TT anyway.

Happy to see AM making changes every year and listening to costumers. Porsche could learn a lesson there.

When you spend a reasonable amount of money for a performance car then sitting in the car, watching the car, admiring the car, hearing the car is simply NOT ENOUGH. A Ferrari sounds incredible but it's definitely a performance car too. When you spend; you demand. That's the way it goes for all products including cars. If I had bought an AM I wouldn't want an M3 smoking me, although you underestimate the car... Sorry if I offended any AM fans, but this car shouldn't have been labeled as a performance car. It's not anyway. I think that the only person that would vote AM to be a winner among other performance cars is Jeremy Clarkson and maybe some actor in a James Bond movie...

Is your opinion based on personal experiance or is just based on assumptions? Did you actualy drove one and raced it against an M3? where you disaointed in the way the AMV8 drives? I am not trying to be funny all I want is understand you point of view because I dont want to make an expancive mistake by regrating my purchase.

Yarub, I've got a friend that works in a famous car magazine and he actually drove quite a lot AMs. He's got a decent opinion for EVERY car just because he is the first to drive every car that is out in the market. If you talk to him about AMs he will reply like this: "I can't find a single reason for someone to choose an AM instead of ANY other car". When he test drove the AM lately he found out that that the car on the track was a disaster. He contacted AM dealer and explained the whole situation to him, regarding car's set-up and chassis. The dealer replied "no, it might be a coincidence or a faulty car... I'll check with AM to see what's wrong and I'll get back to you". He never replied... . My personal experience with AM is that I keep watching the car and see how it performs on the track towards other weaker cars and find the results awful. Also if you take the AM for a race against a 997 S (355hp) which is supposed to be a weaker car, you'll be surprised to see that the 997S will smoke the Aston. I won't talk about getting it on the track, 'cause there it will be a disaster for AM... Sorry but, that's the way it is really.

Road cars are for roads....race cars are for tracks. Who cares what the aston is like on the track. on the road it kicks arse...and pulls way harder than a porsche....if you know what i mean (just to draw the dots together for you.....the ladies).

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Georgie997S said: ... I still haven't seen Mr. Bean driving one...I won't be surprised if I see that too ...