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mateoche said:
thanks so much for the info, RC!!
question: will the facelift be getting the "active headlights" that swivel as the car turns?
they seem like a great feature and in another thread it was implied that they were coming to the facelift.
Apr 28, 2008 12:30:06 AM
Apr 28, 2008 12:33:39 AM
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ed_moree said:
With all the ventilation on the seats and heating on the steering wheel to me it sound more like a gt than a sports car....
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ed_moree said:
With all the ventilation on the seats and heating on the steering wheel to me it sound more like a gt than a sports car....
don't hate the player, hate the game
At least you don't have to order it...
Apr 28, 2008 12:23:14 PM
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ed_moree said:
With all the ventilation on the seats and heating on the steering wheel to me it sound more like a gt than a sports car....
don't hate the player, hate the game
At least you don't have to order it...
At this moment I'm waiting for a Boxster not even think to a 911... and I undestand that the more clients ask for this kind of creature comforts.... but.... I want the real 911 concept... a sports car with little weight, small and very fast, but because of the power to weight balance.... One of the thinks I really like is the new touch screen navigation system, with this maybe the design of the central console it will be again looking like a sports car not like an audi or mercedes limo dashboard with 59 to 80 buttons....
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ed_moree said:
With all the ventilation on the seats and heating on the steering wheel to me it sound more like a gt than a sports car....
don't hate the player, hate the game
At least you don't have to order it...
At this moment I'm waiting for a Boxster not even think to a 911... and I undestand that the more clients ask for this kind of creature comforts.... but.... I want the real 911 concept... a sports car with little weight, small and very fast, but because of the power to weight balance.... One of the thinks I really like is the new touch screen navigation system, with this maybe the design of the central console it will be again looking like a sports car not like an audi or mercedes limo dashboard with 59 to 80 buttons....
May I jump in and also be a little bit "blunt" with you guys?
I "kick" most sportscars driver's a.. in my "GT", so whats the point of driving a "real"(?) sportscar???
It is also funny to read such comments from a(soon to be) Boxster driver, honestly.
Most so called sportscars nowadays have between 1200 and 1800 kg of weight, 10 years ago people would have made fun of these weight figures. 10 years ago, most people DIED in sportscar accidents and 10 years ago, most so called sportscars were slowlier than some 1800 kg "GT".
So whats your point, guys? Does this mean that a sportscar is only a real sportscar if it doesn't provide safety and comfort? Safety is one of the major reasons why sportscars are so heavy nowadays. Do I really need to look like a sweaty pig when I exit my car after a half an hour drive on the track without A/C? Is it really cool not to have any kind of comfort but to have to fight with a crappy steering(no matter how direct), crappy gearbox(race synchro), etc.?
What defines a sportscar? Weight? Performance? Track performance? Comfort features?
Sorry that I can't agree, I'm happy that my 997 Turbo has PSM, PTM, 4WD and...Tiptronic. I'm still faster than most so called sportscar drivers, simply because it isn't the car which makes you fast but your very own driving skills.
Straight ahead? No problem for most drivers, even crappy ones. The real deal comes with the first curve, even more interesting is a changing left/right or vice versa curve which most people can't handle, at least not at a very high speed.
Yes, I love driving the GT3 or even more, a GT3RS, no doubt about it. I would NEVER drive this if I wouldn't have another sportscar for my enjoyment. The GT3RS is even a bad example because it actually is a pretty safe sportscar from many points of view.
Take the Carrera GT: if you succeed being faster on a tight track in a Carrera GT than me in a Tip Turbo, consider yourself a good driver. The Carrera GT is a good example for a pure sportscar which really requires a good driver too to make it fast.
So before sharing your "wisdom" with us, take a seat in a Carrera GT and lets see where your mouth is.
A stock 997 Turbo with PSM turned off would suffice too.
Thanks to the safety devices and the cocoon carbon fibre shell, impact rods etc. It completely vsisible that they were not looking at the fact that the car will add weight if these safety features are installed.
(and not sales) and I understand a little bit some of the things... but it is about to make the car feel light and agile and nimble ... that's where I try to point....and I'm not talking about safety neither. I will put on all the cars all the safety systems available at this moment on the market. You should just see for real a crash test and you will understand just by hearing the bang why.... but as I say is more about the concept.
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donkeyman said:
I'm another one who agrees with RC. I like the new features and will seriously think about upgrading my Targa to a 997. In some respects it appears this face lift is a bigger improvement than 996 - 997. okay, maybe I'm exaggerating, but you get my drift. I can't wait to look at the new 997.
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donkeyman said:
I'm another one who agrees with RC. I like the new features and will seriously think about upgrading my Targa to a 997. In some respects it appears this face lift is a bigger improvement than 996 - 997. okay, maybe I'm exaggerating, but you get my drift. I can't wait to look at the new 997.
Yepp - I agree. Considering the PDK and the direct injection engines, this is a bigger evolution as the 996 to 997 move!
Apr 28, 2008 9:39:26 PM
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donkeyman said:
I'm another one who agrees with RC. I like the new features and will seriously think about upgrading my Targa to a 997. In some respects it appears this face lift is a bigger improvement than 996 - 997. okay, maybe I'm exaggerating, but you get my drift. I can't wait to look at the new 997.
Yepp - I agree. Considering the PDK and the direct injection engines, this is a bigger evolution as the 996 to 997 move!
. 997 MKII is for sure a more refined and much improved (technically) than that of 996 MKII to 997.
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donkeyman said:
I'm another one who agrees with RC. I like the new features and will seriously think about upgrading my Targa to a 997. In some respects it appears this face lift is a bigger improvement than 996 - 997. okay, maybe I'm exaggerating, but you get my drift. I can't wait to look at the new 997.
Apr 28, 2008 9:55:36 PM
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silvershadow said:
If you use the 911 as i do for example, so an everyday car for summer and winter you will like these kind of features. If you a purist you just do not order them and your car will be lighter than the one with them.
On the other side i think porsche needs to work on noise insulation other then engine. Aerodynamic noise and tire noise is so present that most of the times it covers the engine note. This i think is something the guys from zuffenhausen need to work on.
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