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Mar 30, 2008 6:13:31 PM
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nberry said:
It is a Japanese Porsche but with lower costs, better technology and refreshingly new. Not the same old, same old with incremental change.
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nberry said:
It is a Japanese Porsche but with lower costs, better technology and refreshingly new. Not the same old, same old with incremental change.
What about the difference in production numbers? Wouldn't this explain the differences you cite? Nissan makes what..., 1.3 million cars a year?
Would be nice if Ferrari upped their production to at least a few hundred thousand units a year. They'd be a muuuuch better car if they did. No more fluffy coveted niche market hype, more reasonably priced, cheaper to build, lower maint costs and the same quality since robots are ultra-precise these days. Will be nice to see the differences when Ferrari produces a million units per year.
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nberry said:
Recall when Porsche first introduced the 911, it looked like a frog and till this day still looks like one. Yet, it is accepted as classic design (read ugly but we have grown used to it
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nberry said:
Apparently, Nissan is taking a rather cautious approach with production numbers. Presently, they claiming only 1550 units to the US in the first year. I doubt they will abide by that number.
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They ALSO can afford to LOSE money on it, sell it for a very low price. It's probably _market_warfare_ to erode confidence in Porsche.
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devo said:
There is no denying that the GT-R is fast, but sticky tires, launch control and a dual clutch trans. definately help the preformance; A LOT!
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Porsche deserves to lose a few customers when a mildly well equipped Cayman S costs as much as a fully-loaded GT-R. I hope this prods Porsche to up the ante a bit with the go-fast parts (motors, LSD, etc.)
PAG is probably the only company that reversed the production sequence coupe/roadster and decided to charge more for the coupe. 
Mar 31, 2008 12:01:02 AM
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cheshire porsche said:
Last week i went to visit a uk dealer who had the new GTR to view. wow what a car! Its stuffed full of standerd equipment, more performance than you will ever need and looks to boot. Its a car that is really going to test brand loyalty. I have had four Porsche's but this is the first car to challenge my current 911 S logic. Has anyone else seen the car and if so what are your thoughts?
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nberry said:
Recall when Porsche first introduced the 911, it looked like a frog and till this day still looks like one. Yet, it is accepted as classic design (read ugly but we have grown used to it
Nick, that is just another of your classic posts. And, yes, we have grown used to them.
Mar 31, 2008 10:00:44 AM
Mar 31, 2008 10:52:11 AM
Mar 31, 2008 12:31:20 PM
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devo said:
There is no denying that the GT-R is fast, but sticky tires, launch control and a dual clutch trans. definately help the preformance; A LOT!
Not sure I get the point of your post. Are you praising the GT-R for incorporating such advanced technology for such a reasonable price or saying that the GT-R isn't that impressive, since it relies on all that technology to achieve its results?
BTW, launch control has nothing to do with its Nurburgring time of 7:38. And its tires are run-flats (hardly DOT track tires like those on the GT3)...
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nberry said:
Recall when Porsche first introduced the 911, it looked like a frog and till this day still looks like one. Yet, it is accepted as classic design (read ugly but we have grown used to it
Nick, that is just another of your classic posts. And, yes, we have grown used to them.
Classic? I don't think so. Don't encourage him! More like redundant, ad nauseum posts!
David
Hmmm, maybe the irony was too subtle. 
I was using the expression "classic" according to Nick's own definition of it. 
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