Apr 17, 2016 8:37:26 AM
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Apr 17, 2016 5:36:55 PM
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Re: 2016 Russian F1 Grand Prix at Sochi
I was thinking we'd finally get to see the ultrasoft tires in action, but then I saw this:
Pirelli will bring medium, soft and super-soft rubber to April's Russian GP at Sochi, and require all drivers to use at least one set of medium and one set of soft tyres in the race.
The super-soft compound has been nominated as the tyre teams must use at least once during the final segment of qualifying.
If they aren't going to have the ultrasoft at Sochi, where Rosberg did all but 1 lap on the mediums 2 years ago and finished second, where are they going to use them? Are we actually going to see the ultrasoft tires this year?
Re: 2016 Russian F1 Grand Prix at Sochi
Apparently the ultrasoft tire will be used in Monaco and Canada: https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/headlines/2016/3/ultrasoft-tyres-to-debut-in-monaco.html
I think it would have made for a more interesting race in Sochi if they had picked the Medium, Soft, Ultrasoft.
Re: 2016 Russian F1 Grand Prix at Sochi
Ok, so it seems they only intend to use the ultrasoft on street circuits: http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pirelli-ultrasoft-will-only-be-used-on-street-circuits/
Still, I don't understand not using it in Sochi, where there was almost zero tire degradation on the medium and soft compounds the past two seasons.
Re: 2016 Russian F1 Grand Prix at Sochi
Well, decent comeback by Hamilton, some action back in the pack, after the lap 1 melee, nice to see McLaren score points, but never any doubt about Rosberg's win. Still, 7 in a row is impressive. Bad luck for Vettel, but I'm not sure either hit was really Kvyat's fault: hard breaking on the first hit and Vettel slowed for some reason before the second.
May 3, 2016 9:56:30 PM
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Re: 2016 Russian F1 Grand Prix at Sochi
apias:Well, decent comeback by Hamilton, some action back in the pack, after the lap 1 melee, nice to see McLaren score points, but never any doubt about Rosberg's win. Still, 7 in a row is impressive. Bad luck for Vettel, but I'm not sure either hit was really Kvyat's fault: hard breaking on the first hit and Vettel slowed for some reason before the second.
Not his fault? Even on the autobahn if you rear end someone it is your fault. In F1 even brake checking is fair game but Vettel certainly did not do that. IMHO there is only one person at fault in such a collision. The person behind. You always need to mind where you are going and if the road is clear. You can't drive through another car even if they are slower.
May 4, 2016 12:59:11 AM
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Re: 2016 Russian F1 Grand Prix at Sochi
The first hit was definitely a "racing incident", the second, Vettel slowed abruptly at a point on the track where cars are typically pushing hard, so, yeah, I don't think Kvyat deserves as much criticism as he has gotten. It's a race, not a drive down Rodeo Drive.
May 4, 2016 11:40:32 AM
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May 4, 2016 11:58:11 AM
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Re: 2016 Russian F1 Grand Prix at Sochi
This radio ban in F1 has gotten absurd:
"[In the Grand Prix] we started to see the water pressure falling on Lewis' car. At the time, he was pushing hard to catch Nico and pull away from Kimi - posting several purple lap times in the process.
"We needed to await confirmation from the FIA of what we could tell him via the radio. After several calls asking him to take it easy, the all-clear came to let him know that he was losing water pressure.
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As for Rosberg's problems, Mercedes added: "Shortly after his pit stop, we saw some alarming behaviour from Nico's MGU-K.
"We spent a number of laps reassuring him that he had a good gap over Lewis and could ease off before the FIA gave us the all-clear to tell him to switch to a setting that would control the issue.
This is crazy that they can't inform a driver of a serious problem in the car without clearing it with the FIA first, and that it takes, "a number of laps," to get approval for what could potentially and quickly become a safety issue on track.
It just seems like F1 has lost its collective mind on every front these days.
May 4, 2016 9:06:25 PM
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Re: 2016 Russian F1 Grand Prix at Sochi
apias:It doesn't matter why he slowed abruptly, he did, and the result was the same as when Gutierrez did in Australia and Alonso hit him. If you slow abruptly on a race track, especially in the traffic of a start, chances are someone may hit you.
I believe the ten second stop and go by the marshal contradicts your fault determination. While it is correct that slowing anytime can get you hit it is also true that it is the fault of the person coming from behind. I'm not arguing cause I'm arguing fault. If you add in that you should expect a car you just crashed into to have issues and maybe fail in some manner I think you get my point. Vettel kept his cool when interviewed. He likely got the message to remain calm after the Chineese GP. BTW I watched the replay many times and it seemed like Vettel slowed due to a rear tire going flat. That high speed left with air leaking in the right rear made it impossible for him to keep up. You can't just drive through him in that case. Anyway. I'm certain Vettel will not forget soon.
May 4, 2016 9:55:39 PM
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Re: 2016 Russian F1 Grand Prix at Sochi
Sorry, but I still disagree. I also disagree that, "Vettel kept his cool." Maybe when interviewed, but certainly not when he was harassing Christian Horner on the pit wall. (I can't believe the regulations don't actually forbid this. For a driver to go into another team's space and harass and distract their staff in the middle of a race is unbelievably inappropriate. If it were up to me, and the regs gave me the authority to do it, Vettel would get a 1 race ban for that stunt.) And, frankly, if Kvyat had hit, say, Marcus Ericsson, rather than Vettel, most everyone would have just said, "That's racing."
But, maybe I'm particularly willing to cut Kvyat some slack because, as noted, Vettel is such a whiner -- you know, like the time he took Weber (and himself) out and then threw a tantrum complaining about how Weber had ruined his race. This is much ado about nothing, or it would be if everyone weren't afraid to upset poor little Sebastian. He was, at one time, a promising young driver with an apparently good attitude, but he seems to have let RBR's success go to his head and started believing his own press releases.
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